MSNBC's Martin Bashir spoke to former Michele Bachmann staffer Peter Waldon, and although he's the man behind the recent ethics violations against her, he was still willing to defend Bachmann when it came to the fact that she lies like a rug just about every time her mouth is open.

None of us around here are big fans of either PolitiFact or The Washington Post's Glenn Kessler, but when you tell so many lies that you're practically making it a full time job for the two of them to keep up with the magnitude of B.S. you're spouting on a daily basis, that's pretty bad.

After reading a number of them off, Bashir asked Waldon how he squared all of those lies with the fact that Bachmann portrays herself as a good Christian woman and here's how he responded.

BASHIR: How can a committed Christian say such utterly false and untruthful things, almost as a matter of fact each day?

WALDRON: Well the knee jerk reaction to your question is, well no one's perfect Martin. What do you expect? On the other hand, your question is serious. I believe that she has made misstatements. Knowing her as I do and as well as I do, I know that she doesn't sit down and make up a list of deliberate lies.

What I do know is that she can be misinformed. What I do know is that she can misunderstand and what I do know is that she has made a lot of mistakes and she has misspoken and I'm certain that it's caused her embarrassment.

With respect, those statements are not always intended for the Washington Post or Politico or even MSNBC Martin Bashir, but those statements are for her constituency. She represents a constituency that believes much of what she says. There are many in America, many American voters, not only Evangelicals, but others represented by Rick Santorum or Senator Rand or former... or his dad. There is a constituency that believes that Obamacare is not good for America. There are many businessmen who say Michele, you're right. It's not good for America.

So with all due respect, there is two sides to every opinion, but she speaks as a champion. She speaks to a constituency and there are many people across the board, east to west, north to south that agree with what she's saying.

Now there can be the policy wonks that will say “Oh, that's horrible” and it may be tragic. It may be for you tragic, but with all due respect, she's a champion, and she speaks for millions of people.

So lying's okay as long as the dupes who are sending you money and supporting you believe them. Wow.