Glenn Beck's eliminationist attacks on progressives: How long before someone acts on this violent rhetoric?
David Sirota observes in his column this week the really ugly nature of Glenn Beck's express hatred of progressives, embodied in his CPAC speech:
To wild applause, he labeled this alleged tumor of "community" the supposedly evil "progressivism" -- and he told disciples to "eradicate it" from the nation.
The lesson was eminently clear, coming in no less than the keynote address to one of America's most important political conventions. Beck taught us that a once-principled conservative movement of reasoned activists has turned into a mob -- one that does not engage in civilized battles of ideas. Instead, these torch-carriers, gun-brandishers and tea partiers follow an anti-government terrorist attack by cheering a demagogue's demand for the physical annihilation of those with whom he disagrees -- namely anyone, but particularly progressives, who value "community."
No doubt, some conservatives will parse, insisting Beck was only endorsing the "eradication" of progressivism but not of progressives. These same willful ignoramuses will also likely say that the Nazis' beef was with Judaism but not Jews, and that white supremacists dislike African-American culture but have no problem with black people.
Other conservatives will surely depict Beck's "eradication" line as just the jest of a self-described "rodeo clown" -- merely the "fusion of entertainment and enlightenment," as his radio motto intones. But if Beck is half as smart as he incessantly tells listeners he is, then he knows it's no joke.
What he's describing, of course, is the very subject of my last book, The Eliminationists: How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right:
What motivates this kind of talk and behavior is called eliminationism: a politics and a culture that shuns dialogue and the democratic exchange of ideas in favor of the pursuit of outright elimination of the opposing side, either through suppression, exile, and ejection, or extermination.
Rhetorically, eliminationism takes on certain distinctive shapes. It always depicts its opposition as beyond the pale, the embodiment of evil itself, unfit for participation in their vision of society, and thus worthy of elimination. It often further depicts its designated Enemy as vermin (especially rats and cockroaches) or diseases, and disease-like cancers on the body politic. A close corollary—but not as nakedly eliminationist—are claims that opponents are traitors or criminals and that they pose a threat to our national security.
Eliminationism is often voiced as crude "jokes," a sense of humor inevitably predicated on venomous hatred. And such rhetoric—we know as surely as we know that night follows day—eventually begets action, with inevitably tragic results.
Beck actually has been engaging in eliminationist rhetoric in attacking progressives since June of last year, though he's been recently ratcheting it down to new depths.
I compiled the video above with a sampling from the past nine months. In it, you can see Beck call progressives a "cancer" (multiple times), "the disease that's killing us," a "virus," a "parasite," "vampires" who will "suck the life out" of the Democratic Party, and claim that progressives intend the "destruction of the Constitution" and will strike it a "death blow".
As Sirota notes, Beck is taking us down a certain path with this kind of rhetoric, and it always, as Beck himself puts it, "ends badly."
please see rwanda
thank you
Jim David Adkisson's manifesto described "the bad things liberalism has done to this country," and he said he wanted to kill everyone in Bernard Goldberg's "100 People Who Are Screwing Up America."
This isn't cute anymore, people.
in 1930 and told them they'd be murdering people by the millions in about 10 years for being of a certain ethnicity or belief system most would have disbelieved you. Same no doubt with the above-mentioned Rwanda, or Cambodia, Russia, China, etc. Don't think it can't happen here, and progressives better realize these folks won't respond positively to attempts at putting daisies in their rifle barrels, literally or otherwise.
So if democrats and progressives don't want to risk having those rifles pointed at them at some point it's imperative to not underestimate them or what they can do, and get active in whatever way to dismantle their movement brick by brick, politically.
Having a certain segment of non-wingnuts well-armed and ready to go there if necessary wouldn't hurt--politically--either. Trust me, these folks know if push came to shove most liberal-minded Americans will be at a disadvantage; I see no reason not to change that.
I think I have enough fire arms if necessary.
I watched the history channel yesterday about WWII, AT one point they were talking about hitler and the propaganda they used to turn the greman people against the Jews. As it went on I began to see how much like the Nazi's the republicans are.
They really are good little Ichman's, look how easy it was to get them to believe Iraq was a danger to us. Look how many of them still think sadam helped binladen? They just don't care about the truth or facts they just believe. They do not have the morals or the intelligence to make sound rational decision that effects other peoples lives!
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness and it is killing America!
Great seeing stuff in color.
I'd be curious to see a poll question of 'Merkins along the lines of:
"What should the US strategy be to capture Saddam Hussein?"
I'd bet seriously that more than 50% of 'Merkins don't even know he's dead!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Isn't that a Bushism?
But I'm afraid progressives will be taking brains to a gun fight if these people REALLY become unhinged and want to bring about the "revolution" they have been talking about.
They are ignorant and pro-guns.
We are bright and informed and anti-guns (at least pro-gun-control).
HOPEFULLY the government and media FINALLY come to their senses if we ever have to get the National Guard to RECOGNIZE AND PUT DOWN these dangerous treasonous bastards.
IF it ever came to that.
Teabaggers and progressives agree on one thing - our government is fucked up.
We would NEVER agree on what needs to be done to fix it - teabaggers would make things WORSE if they could ever shape our government.
We need INTELLIGENT HONORABLE people controlling our government. What we have is corrupt soul-less selfish pigs.
And the uneducated morons in this country believe right wing media that it's for their own good.
As education costs go up we are going to have more and more ignorant people who lack critical thinking skills.
We are dealing with a situation in which we might become outnumbered (if you exclude independents) and their side has the guns.
Because one thing these guys ain't is organized. Put a bunch of loonie white guys in the street, esp in major cities, and existing gangs will eat them alive, if for nothing else, their weapons caches.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
every time. Don't underestimate intelligence.
Also, Liberals also outnumber conservatards at least 2-to-1.
Come from the same frightened rabid community that is afraid of change, and hates minorities. They will look the other way or actively help the RW fringe. The cops did this with the teabaggers in the early public protests.
The NSDAP had the same help in Germany in the 20s from the German cops.
Sun, 02/28/2010 - 09:07 — walt kovacs
please see rwanda
thank you
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktPK28QFi8&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
In my Holocaust course, I use Beck as an example to make a point that my students already believe, that it (fascism) can is IS happening here. Beck's rhetoric is incredibly dangerous, because unless he somehow gains a soul, and shuts off and repudiates his hate speech, people will die because of him.
The right turned "liberal" into a dirty word and now they are doing their best to do the same to "progressive." Why aren't there any well-known lefties on the national stage who spend all their time talking about the dirty history of conservatism?
prick...Growing up in the South I saw first hand how the low information groups could turn a obvious lie into violent action in a heartbeat!
This is treason and should be shut down --- he and his followers along with palin are turning cutsey into a opportunity to incite riots!
than many on the left realize, and despite the fact that they'll be replaced if they fall, someone needs to find a way to get this unfortunately influential douchebag off the air permanently. Everyone has skeletons in the closet (though he's been able to get through such revelations thus far by acting crazier than he is), or they can be invented. Really, it's time to take the kid gloves off and go after this pig like he goes after others. Same with that waste of space Rush Limburger, O'Liely, and that self-hating Malkin nutcase.
were you a Navy corpsman?
Because obviously "the national stage" is dark to well-known lefties.
Here's the question: When will Obama/Congress stand up and demand that the FCC create fundamental fairness on the people's airwaves?
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
real bone to chew on yet, so I'd say don't hold your breath for anything resembling progressive--or even truly democratic--policy to come out of the House of Rahm.
For a constitutonal scholar, Obama and crew show remarkably little regard for the constitution and for the law. Either can be readily sacrificed upon the altar of the expedient of the moment. Flexible pragmatism in action.
We all are aware of Altemeyers' research about the contradictions of the RWA/SDO mindeset, and Beck certainly exhibits that behavior, but I found something far more sinister about one of his Idols, Ayn Rand.
It was her infatuation with a serial killer, and her idolization of his thought process, holding his values as near perfect.
Hmmm, a paranoid sociopath, who idolizes a paranoid sociopath, who idolized a sociopathic murderer.
That's family values, Conservative style!!
http://www.alternet.org/story/145819/ayn_rand...
it's not surprising but good to see concrete evidence of this mindset.
I always considered Rand a sociopath/psychopath based soley upon the things she espoused and stood for. Her writing are those of a person without conscience lost in and endless effort to justify herself. This article only drives the point home.
justify herself."
A phrase that is a perfect definition of most of the opinion spewers on Faux Noise.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
I posted a similar link just yesterday to Democratic underground in the thread about the wingnut response to the lady with the hand-me-down dentures.
This all just shows what the base for the modern CONservative way of thinking comes from, the worship of the ideas of an emotionally disturbed woman (who was an athiest too I might add).
And they wonder why we laugh at them and think that they are dangerous to the countries well being.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
In California, Republican white supremacists have already latched on to this insane Christian's hate rhetoric and murdered Mexicans. Republicans march in Southern California out in the open now. waving their Nazi flags and screaming "white power!" at traffic.
My take.
Frank Rich hits it on the head today.
Yep, he certainly does hit the nail on the head.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
The difficulty is that attacking him and his followers confirms their paranoia.
This is going far beyond free speech. This is definitely at the "Fire!" in the theater stage.
Maybe a bigger noise should be made about him hawking gold in commercials while inciting the fear that encourages people to "invest" in the metal on his show.
yes he would be upon fraud charges, but then Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitcz et al... would be in for treason too, ..if we had a DoJ, yaddayaddayadda
(sing to the tune 'if I were a rich man..' from Fiddler on the Roof)
are not holding a vigil every single day and night outside FOX studios in NYC and Los Angeles demanding that Beck be shut down?
I drive by FOX frequently over in WLA.
Anyone? Anyone???
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
West L.A? That's the homosexual community in Los Angeles, there should be plenty of peolpe to protest and shut down that den of vipers in that area.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
So is suspect Jim D. Adkisson's attack on civilians in the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church. Police found a letter in Adkisson's car expressing his " hatred of the liberal movement."
Even if this man hopefully acted alone it is chilling to all progressive people and groups, like the Unitarians. Are we free to express our views, indeed to allow our children to perform in a church play?
All you need is one lone nut acting out to have a church shooting, an Oklahoma City bombing...
John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, James Earl Ray, Sirhan, Sirhan--just a few individuals who changed the course of history because of hate-filled admonitions ingrained in them over the years.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
"All you need is one lone nut acting out to have a church shooting..."
That's right. And that's exactly what beck is aware of. Just the way o'reilly knew he could get Tiller killed eventually. Beck knows that there is some sick fuck out there, a loser who needs "the other" to blame for his own ineptitude, or who longs for any sort of notoriety, or is simply someone who would get a big kick out of murdering someone. Beck knows how to embolden someone like that by making them believe they are part of some great and noble movement. The clincher is, beck knows so much about manipulating these losers because he's just like them. That's true for ALL of the wingnut talking heads. Check out any one of their backgrounds and you'll see they are all mediocre at best. In fact, if they were not willing to lie day in and day out for money, you'd probably never known much of them at all. Their only talent is lying.
he would be charged with hate crimes and his pathetic ass would be rotting in a jail somewhere.
Those guns are owned by 35% of American households. There are 112.5 households in the US. Any way you do the math, these are concerning numbers. I couldn't find figures for the percentage of fringe kooks in America, but we know there are a lot. (We've seen the town halls and tea parties). You don't have to be a Rhodes Scholar to see that energizing and promoting hate and rage, and pointing out "the enemy" will lead to violence. This man and those like him are dangerous as hell.
Do you honestly believe that the American people would be "safer" if all our guns were surrendered to a government that has just made it lawful to assassinate American citizens without charge or trial?
The founders didn't give us the right to bear arms so we could go hunting for quail down in Texas Rascalcat.
Go read the Constitution, you'll feel better.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
I'm sure Dan's relieved...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
And more than a few of them in the hands of unstable fools. Know what? Unstable fools will find ways to acquire them, even if you make them illegal. I own several, myself, and Beck's crowd of genetic defectives would consider me an unstable fool. Who would be right?
If you're worried about guns, my honest advice to you would be to take a few classes and get to know the topic. If you are still worried about them then, you should be. They are dangerous weapons.
But in our world, unstable fools possess dangerous weapons. Like automobiles. Or knives. Or poison. Or bombs. Or shotguns. A determined fool will kill people with whatever weapons are handy.
I'm sorry to have to point out to you that the only real defense we have from the police is post-facto - the threat of punishment for infraction. If you want defense personally against a kook in such a circumstance, I'd recommend two options.
First, a pair of running shoes. When the kook shows up, run.
Second, a firearm of your own and classes on how to use it. If you are presented with a situation where the shoes won't get you out of it, the firearm is there.
This might sound glib, but I'm deadly serious here. I'm not suggesting you join the NRA, but if you are seriously concerned here, you really have very limited options.
T
He does realize it was a republican that came up with the concept?
Of course Teddy like bullies.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
he planned to unveil his 100 Year "Plan" for America this August from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, on the anniversary of Dr King's "I have a Dream" speech.
Talk about taking the country back - back from hope to Bircher paranoia.
He's now calling it "Restoring Honor" and seems to be trying to shield himself from criticism by having it now billed as a fundraising rally for a veteran's charity. And the best part for his followers - they can contribute tax free through the charity to put on Beck's vanity rally! Amazing!
I have contacted the charity to ask them to disassociate from Beck, given his particularly virulent anti-progressive rhetoric (anti - anybody tha disagrees with Beck, actually) to no avail.
Beck is crazy like a fox - for a shcok-jock, this is a grand attention grabbing stunt indeed.
And what a shame for America if this hate and fear monger does pull it off for himself. His rhetoric is so toxic.
they mean "back to the 19th Century."
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
...that a little enema can't cure.
;>)
Republicans and the Right as seen by the attitude of Beck the douchebag coward have this mistaken belief that progressives and liberals are somehow physically weak and are an easy push over if, threatened with violence.
Let me tell you something Beck or any other Right Wing douchebag that I don't deal in threats. I welcome any MF'er on this Planet to come get me anytime, anyplace 'cos it will your worst and last day. You'll be one sorry SOB!
Frank Zappa - Make A Jazz Noise Here
Beck's hateful rhetoric will cause will take our mind off 9/11 and focus it on domestic issues where is should be.
Isn't this deranged person a Mormon. As I understand it, community is one of the biggest things that the LDS is about. Is Beck also calling for the anhilation of all Mormons?
This asshat, along with the corporate office at News Corporation, Inc seriously need to review the war crimes prosecutions that came out of the Rwanda genocide. I should think that they would find it sobering. What bothers me most is that our justice department and the FCC stand by idly while FOX does its thing. Yes, free speech is protected. Freedom of the press is protected. But fraud is not. Incitement to violence is not. Incitement to sedition is not. Those things are crimes, no matter who commits them. News Corp needs to be called to accounts.
Mormons work volunteers on church farms that are essentially a support for Mormons who need in return foods from these farms.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Screen cap says, Beck Talks "Sense"
Even Fox News knows that his "Sense" is Nonsense hence the need for quotes.
Every time I hear about the free medical clinics trying to provide help to the uninsured, i expect to hear on the news that some Glen Beck devotee right wing nut barged in and sprayed people down with machine gun fire-
Of course if this were to happen, and if the killer was white, right wingers would insist it couldn't be concidered terrorism- and Beck would feign stupidity, claiming he's just a 'rodeo clown', so whatever he says has no impact on his listeners actions...
Get this right though- Becks fans tend to be middle aged white Christian racists- and they see as the enemy (1) gays, (2) black people (3) Latinos (4) and anyone who doesn't worship Jesus.
Beck never debated an issue- he villifies the people holding the views he detests- lets face it, he couldn't debate shit- this is a man who thinks communism, socialism and fascism all mean the same thing..
The big joke that Americans can't seem to see is that American style capitalism is an abject failure, and the world knows it...
Ya THINK?!!!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
He vilified a rival DJ's wife and mocked her losing a baby.
How long before someone acts on this violent rhetoric?
Not very much longer. Hope you have a flack jacket, Dave. You are a likely target for these yahoos given your prominence in shining light on them.
this is just like watching news in bizarro world. or am i in bizarro world and somewhere out there is the normal world?
and somewhere out there (outside the borders of America) is Normal World. And they all think we're batshit crazy.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
This is London calling...
WTF is going on in the USA these days?!?
You guys are going to pay one heck of a heavy price for allowing a pair of ruthless propagandists like Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch to continually shout 'Fire! Fire! And it's all Obama's fault - he started it!' in that free market theater of yours.
We kicked Murdoch out of the UK back in the Nineties for attempting the same kind of schtick he's foisting on you guys now.
Freedom of Speech is a wonderful thing, until the facists come along and corrupt, despoil, and saturate the airwaves with an endless daily deluge of their loathsome hate-spew.
Back in the late Thirties / early Forties, we saw where that kind of rhetoric leads to. And we paid one heck of a price for allowing it to happen. Never again.
As your admirable Mr Greenwood would say:
"Pssst! Do something!"
we know. But it seems this thing is going to have to run its course before the majority of Americans are going to come around. That means some awful shit is going to happen before anything gets better, I'm afraid.
BTW, I hope your country is prepared to take in people seeking political asylum. I'm afraid there's going to be an awful lot of us.
...given that I lived in England for several years as a child and would love the chance to return, such a proposal would probably (as the Brits say) go over like a cup of cold sick. There simply wouldn't be enough room in the British isles for all of us. The whole country isn't that much bigger than the state of Ohio, remember! No...like it or not, if we reach that point, the majority of Americans who want to flee the country would probably need to seek refuge in Canada.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
People might never come around. take russia, for example. Most people there still think that all they need is another Joeseph Stalin and everything will be just fine. Demagogues like Beck can poison the minds of a lot of people, and that poisoning will last the rest of their lives. Some thing never run the course, they just keep going, even when the going brings down every imaginable ruin and hardship.
What an ignorant, charismatic, hysteria-rousing and utterly dangerous clown!
Gotsta luv the bit about the progressive "virus" waiting to suck the blood out of the democratic neck...so we can now add "virus" to the long list of terms that this idiot uses without having even the foggiest idea as to what they really mean, such as "fascism", "socialism", and "progressivism".
Can't you see the trail of dribble that's left in the dust behind beck's folks after a rally? Did you hear bubba ADVOCATE anything?? I didn't think so... bubba NEVER advocates anything so he can't be BLAMED for anything.. when his drooling masses of automatons commit violent reprisals on folks that may not even be relevant in the slightest with the current situation - but bubba's clean - he never said anything about beating that person's head in with a chain....not bubba... NNnoooo...
bubba will NEVER ADVOCATE anything concrete... to much legal exposure.. BUT NOW he's scored the ultimate shield... bubba and his alaskan soul mate are going on tour together !!! How convenient !! He can go out and spew (NEVER ADVOCATE SPECIFICALLY) as much negative innuendo as he wants now and can HIDE BEHIND whatever sister golden-tooth surprise spouts and POOF ! He's clean.. He never advocated anything.... not bubba... NNnoooo...
bubba thinks he's SO wise... wait until the Klan figures out that he's actually made them and their brothers over at the John Birch Society and all the loons at Cluster-Fox, targets for real... Then let's sit back and watch the show...
Kiss my ass Becky , you and your band of low life freaks fear and loath the progressives same as you fear and loath the truth and the facts . Fear us you little weasel, because we will kick your fascist lunatic asses in the end .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
Beck spent all that time at CPAC saying the "disease" is "progressivism", and when Brown voted for cloture on the jobs bill, Beck labeled him a "progressive Republican".
If I was Brown, I'd stop drinking tea made from any tea-bags that smell faintly of almonds...
David, Thank you for this report. It is a bit unnerving. I have linked the article as the inspirational reference to my post on Moloch the Plutocracy...
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Chelsea Hotel (MP) - Glenn "LobotoMary" Beck has commanded the Lobotomites to start a war on Human Progress. The Lobotomites are Beck's lobotomized hoard of worshipful followers. Beck commands the Lobotomites from his bunker at Foxy Newsy "hows that working out for ya" Network.
Read Full Article at: www.molochtheplutocracy.us
Big C&L Fan,
DonJon.
.Lobotomites
.sheeple
.dittiots
.lemmings
I wonder what works best to describe these mindless thugs.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
The F word, good ol fashioned fascists.
Watchdog:
I am glad you like the Lobotomites. It is enjoyable to this theater of the absurd and make it so obviously absurd that it is entertaining. Thanks, DonJon.
www.molochtheplutocracy.us
Beck call progressives a "cancer" (multiple times), "the disease that's killing us," a "virus," a "parasite," "vampires" who will "suck the life out" of the Democratic Party
The above statement shows that all he's really doing is trying to move the Democrats to the right. He thinks if he and other conservatives go after progressives really hard, then Democratic politicians will distance themselves from the left. The sad truth is this strategy has been extremely effective, as the Democratic Party now pushes aside any candidate or group that is even remotely progressive.
conservative, Bribe-O-Crat, "Centrist" "Democrats need to get their asses challenged in primaries this year and their asses handed to them on an electoral platter.
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Yes sir reee...
... Them Pro-gress-ofs sure are the problem. What with all their Constitutional hate and all.
I suppose Beck didn't like the unconstitutional Patriot act...
I suppose Beck didn't like the rendition/TORTURE program...
I suppose Beck didn't like a politicised DoJ...
... Because those were examples of extreme anti-Constitutional acts.
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
... when Hydrogen peroxide comes in contact with an infection. I believe things will get worse before they get better. We may write-off these lone killers as anomalies, when in reality, they share a kindred spirit.
This warped sense of reality is convenient to many individuals, more so to some then others. When individuals understand that their rights to do as they please, comes from an imagination... much mischief will undoubtedly ensue.
I can understand why these people will and do have a problem with democracy. The Constitution... the supreme law of this land, it seems like many pieces of legislation to be imprecise or lacks clarity... all Men are created equal. Notice anything at odds?
Some of the oddities are the difference between a musket and a drone, a secular society and one endowed by a creator.
Is it wise and or possible to setup a democracy under Sharia?
Amended: Iraq death toll spikes ahead of election
Study the symptoms not the virus...
enough is enough? There are people out there that hinge on every word this lunatic says!
Beck is a first class asshole............he probably doesn't believe half the shit he says, but he does it for ratings. If that's true, he's an even a bigger dirt bag.
They've already started!
his radio program is like an open FESTERING WOUND of Facist propoganda. Your paragraph of eliminationism fits SAVAGE NAATION like a glove. I think BOTH he and Beck are scary... and in need of close scrutiny.
Fortunately, I guess, he doesn't get as large an audience as becky.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
IMHO, Van Johnson has found the ideal solution to Beck.
Counter that, Beck. I wonder if Mr. Johnson has been spending time with Cornel West?
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
react with more rage, but that's wild. Good on you, Mr. Johnson.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Possibly, at least rage raises blood pressure and stress levels-all good.
I see this as the Arlo Guthrie method of protest. Think about jumping up and down in a draft board psychologists office saying, "Kill, Kill. I wanna kill!"-meet every Beck remark with, "I love you, man!"
I have no problem with contributing to pushing Beck over the edge. ;o}
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
least is satisfying. :P
I especially enjoyed Mr. Johnson telling Beck that he loved Beck and there was nothing he could do about it. :D
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Killing liberals has been a conservative "solution" for a while now. The republicans and their minions have been spreading hate for at least 15 years. The fiend who killed the Unitarian "liberals" in Knoxville was one of their progeny. If the republicans can't scare the life out of you with their lies, they will instigate their own real terror to do the job.
To get this piece of shit off the air. A law suit, government action, a letter writing campaign, further boycott of advertisers. This bacteria called Beck must be eliminated, legally of course.
It shouldn't take that much balls to get this scumbag off the air. He's a clown, remember that.
Is it the 21st century yet?
...is the way in which the people who use eliminationist rhetoric always try to justify it by conveniently portraying themselves as the helpless victims who are under attack -- under attack from the same people whom they often turn around and slaughter wholesale (proving that they were never as helpless as they claimed to be).
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
no one will bring suit against him, and you are foolish if you don't believe in arming yourself for protection. What are you going to do when the only people with guns are these nuts and the police?
One of the things that I see Beck is attempting to do is to try and villify the word progressive, the same way his mentor Limbaugh villified the word liberal. It's just that Beck is doing it in a vastly different way from Limbaugh. Fat boy was actually pretty subtle in his early rhetoric, whereas Beck seems to be trying to channel his inner Hitler.
What Beck is saying and the way he is saying it is in some ways similar to what Hitler said and how he said it (I do not think Beck has even a smidgin of Hitlers speaking ability though).
Poor Goodwin is in full bloom now-a-days, but it cannot be denied that the teabagger movement and their choosen leaders bear a striking resemblance to the early nazi's and their rise.
I do not believe for a second that these half-wits will be able to take over America the way the nazi's took over Germany, at best they may finally get their second civil war; such a conflict would not look anything like the original, and it WONT be reddawn material either. What it will be is a lot of bloody Ruby Ridge and Waco standoffs, and I imagine they'll take a page from the Iraqi insurgents and the IED's will come to America.
These people will likely turn us into Beirut, but they can never win, which is really all they care about.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
They just want them to destabilize America enough to get civil rights suspended. It will become an emergency situation, and oh dear bye bye civil rights and freedom of speech. All in the course of public safety and protections.
It is way past time for the FCC to step in on the man and stop him point blank. And if Obama had any balls at all he would demand it so. The man is yelling fire in a crowded theater without any recourse. This is 10 times worse than any father coughlin (sic) could ever have hoped to be. But as with all things Democratic as of late the party and the president(sic) will whimper and say uh would you please stop doing that, all the while this man continues to shred any civility left in this country and along with it the constitution. He should be hanged for treason his body quartered incinerated and shot off the planet in a missile so as not to contaminate anything else. But do Democrats or the POTUS have the balls.... You see where health care has gone...........
The sad part of all this is that without that vast, imbecilic gaggle of drooling dittoheads, Beck would have nothing more than a soapbox in a public park somewhere, where he could rant in a drool-splattered trenchcoat with a crumpled brown paper bag wrapped around a bottle of Thunderbird.
Instead, they feed on each other, an endless feedback loop of mindless, insensate rage at a world they neither understand nor fit into. Yes, it's the fertile soil from which the Brownshirts sprang, and the grave problem that we've got is -- to be charitable -- 24 years of ignoring the increasingly insane rhetoric that Rush began spewing in 1986, as soon as St. Ronald of Ray Gun assured all and sundry that no "fairness doctrine" was needed in the debate on the public airwaves.
The term in debate is a "lack of clash." We don't challenge them --when we can, that is:it is invariably a one-sided debate, with our voices scrupulously scrubbed from talk shows, from blogs, and, finally, from media altogether. And that's no accident.
Al Gore was savaged in the press today for pointing out that global warming is still REAL, despite all the Exxon-Koch astroturf and propaganda, fake kerfuffle and phony "idiots are smarter than smartypants scientists" nonsense.
And NO ONE stood up to them. No one said a word*. No one had Al's back. At best, we snarked him, along with all the other clueless nitwits that live to inhale the perfume of Beckian flatulence.
http://www.memeorandum.com/100227/p34#a100227p34
(* OK: Just brave Joe at Climate Progress.)
First we gotta fight back. With words, hopefully, before it becomes more weaponized. And second, we GOTTA cover each other's backs.
Olbermann was savaged last week, and, again, no one speaks up for him.
ACORN is being destroyed in front of our eyes, and we do NOTHING to stand up for them.
Quit waiting for "George" to do it. George DID do it, and he DID it to YOU. Or have you forgotten?
A government of the people, by the people, and for the people falls if the people do NOTHING. If all they can do is stab one another in the back because they are too frightened to attack the REAL enemy: the Becks, the Boners (sic), the Pat Toomeys, the Howie Riches.
(And the Mary Beth Buchanans, who are now running for congress, having told the elected president of the United States that she wouldn't stop her jackbooting in Pittsburg as the US Attorney until she FELT like it, viz. November 2009! Remember her? The thug who claims her only regret is not giving Tommy Chong more jail time for her entrapment of his son's glass bong business? Yeah. Where's the coverage of THAT abomination?)
As for me, I've been standing alone for a long time now, but I ain't going to back down on these bastards. If you want to join me, feel free, but I ain't running from these puling cowards.
And I've got the scars to prove it.
Therefore, do not ask for whom the bell tolls, progressives,
it tolls for thee.
ignorance and deception at work there in Beck. He has power to steer the weak minded, uninformed herd into the ditch. When will this dinosaur evolve and grow up into an adult human being?
In North America, Authoritarians are politically conservative and usually religious fundamentalists who absolutely agree with questions like this:
Our country desperately needs a mighty leader who will do what has to be done to destroy the radical new ways and sinfulness that are ruining us.
The only way our country can get through the crisis ahead is to get back to our traditional values, put some tough leaders in power, and silence the troublemakers spreading bad ideas.
Our country will be destroyed someday if we do not smash the perversions eating away at our moral fiber and traditional beliefs.
What our country really needs is a strong, determined leader who will crush evil, and take us back to our true path.
God’s laws about abortion, pornography and marriage must be strictly followed before it is too late, and those who break them must be strongly punished.
There are many radical, immoral people in our country today, who are trying to ruin it for their own godless purposes, whom the authorities should put out of action.
This country would work a lot better if certain groups of troublemakers would just shut up and accept their group’s traditional place in society.
http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/ch...
Pretty scary that someone would strongly agree with questions like these isn't it? The estimation is that 25% of the population in the U.S. is Authoritarian. Who do you think approved of Bush his last year in office when the vast majority of the country disapproved of him completely? Who believe his lies? Who would like to get rid of all those unpatriotic liberals?
As a gun-totin' Progressive--up to now quite a rare breed--I ask you: "Hey, fellow Progessives, you you still thinking it would be a good idea to give up the gun?"
If the Jewish people in Nazi Germany had been armed and willing to fight internal deportation and elimination (instead of being only able to trustingly go along following instructions like good Germans), they'd have lost a lot fewer of their people, and the Nazis would have had a lot harder time putting the death camps "out of sight, out of mind" of non-Jewish Germans.
I know this: if (or when) the eliminationists come for me and my friends or family, they will have a fight on their hands--a deadly fight--and I'll be taking a few of them with me, if I go.
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