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The progression of the nation's first federal hate-crimes law -- the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act -- out of the House and into the Senate, where it will almost certainly pass (barring a GOP filibuster), has the right-wing punditocracy in an uproar.

Especially Sean Hannity -- who's now just flatly lying on the air about the bill, and about hate-crimes laws in general. The distortion and demagoguery is making quite a spectacle.

The right-wing smear-and-lie machine has been getting cranked up to fight this bill from the outset, with notable contributions from the likes of Virginia Foxx. But the champion liar/demagogue is Rep. Steve King of Iowa, who has been throwing up garbage amendments -- including a nonsensical attempt to include veterans under hate-crime provisions. Of course, Hannity reported this attempt as something serious instead of the cheap grandstanding it was.

And the grandstanding continues with subsequent attempts to exclude pedophiles from bias-crime protection. On Fox News last night, both Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity devoted segments to exploring King's proposals to exclude pedophilia as a "protected class."

There's a big problem with this claim: There's nothing in either the federal legislation, or in any state law, that could credibly be construed as offering protection to pedophiles. In fact, the entire construct -- that these laws create "protected classes" -- is false to begin with.

But King's argument appears predicated on the notion that pedophilia might somehow legally qualify as a "sexual orientation" -- which is to say, it rests on the assumption that homosexuality is somehow akin to pedophilia.

Nonetheless, the hamhanded upshot of these cheap ploys is that Sean Hannity could get on the air and say:

HANNITY: Is it safe to say that Democrats were willing to protect pedophiles but not offer the same protection to servicemen and women? Is that an accurate statement?

KING: Sean, it is a matter of congressional record. Absolutely true -- beyond any doubt whatsoever.

Media Matters has the transcript:

HANNITY: Now, during last week's debate on the hate crimes bill, Republicans proposed an amendment that would exempt pedophiles from receiving the protections of that bill that offers victims of hate crimes.

Now, the Democrats voted unanimously against the amendment. Here's what they said.

CLERK OF THE HOUSE: Mr. Scott votes no [...] Ms. Lofgren votes no [...] Mr. Cohen votes no [...] Mr. Johnson votes no [...] Mr. Pierluisi votes no [...] Mr. Gutierrez votes no [...] Mr. Sherman votes no [...] Ms. Baldwin votes no [...] Mr. Weiner votes no [...] Mr. Maffei votes no [...] Mr. Wexler votes no [...] Ms. Waters --

HANNITY: Now, meanwhile, as we first reported on this program last week, one Democratic congresswoman denounced an idea that veterans should receive any sort of protections at all.

And joining me now to discuss what exactly unfolded is Congressman Steve King. He sponsored the amendment that would have excluded pedophiles from this legislation. Congressman, good to see you.

KING: Thanks, Sean. It's good to be with you tonight.

HANNITY: I want to be perfectly clear. So hate -- we have a hate crimes bill, and you're saying, all right, we should exempt pedophiles. Every Democrat says no. But when there is -- the sponsorship of the bill that would also include veterans that are victims of crimes because they're veterans, Democrats -- they wanted them exempt but the pedophiles in. Do I have that right?

KING: You have it right, Sean. They were wrong on both counts, obviously. But you have it absolutely right. And on the top of that, the amendment that I offered to exempt pedophiles from a special protected status was after Tammy Baldwin, one of the lead sponsors on the bill, had argued that the sexual orientation, special protective status in the bill, only covered heterosexuals and homosexuals, so that doesn't include a pedophile. But she opposed the amendment anyway, as did all the Democrats, as you just showed tonight.

HANNITY: All right, Congressman. I got to slow down here, because I don't think I got this right. So the Democrats voted against special protected status to pedophiles in this bill.

KING: Yes.

HANNITY: But when they had a chance to offer special protected status to veterans returning from Iraq, Afghanistan, and other wars, they said no. Tell me that I -- tell me that that didn't happen in Washington. Tell me that I'm really -- I got this whole thing messed up and backwards.

We've debunked this nonsense numerous times in the past, but let's wash, rinse, and repeat anyway:

[King's] proposal would render the legislation moot and unconstitutional, because it would then be predicated on the idea of creating "protected classes." And, as has been already explained many times, hate-crimes bills aren't about creating "protected categories" -- they are strictly written to encompass the motives of the perpetrator:

Hate-crime statutes are neither written to protect specific classes of persons from assault nor to enhance the charges simply when a person from a "protected class" is the victim of a crime. We don't have laws that create stiffer time if you simply assault a black or a Jew or a gay person. The laws don't even specify races or religions. Such laws would be in clear violation of basic constitutional principles, including the equal-protection clause.

In fact, the actual class status of a victim is almost secondary to the decision whether or to file a hate-crimes charge or not. The primary concern is the motivation of the perpetrator. All of these laws are written to punish people more severely for committing a crime committed with a bias motivation.

Not everyone ever joins an armed service. Veteranhood is a not a universal trait. But the categories of bias motivation -- race, ethnicity, religious beliefs, and sexual preference -- are universal human traits:

[Bias crime laws] are intended to protect everyone equally from these kinds of crimes. Everyone, after all, has religious beliefs of one kind or another; we all have a race, a gender, an ethnicity, a sexual orientation. A quick look at the FBI's annual bias-crime statistics bears this out; anti-white bias crimes are the second-largest category of racial crimes, and anti-Christian crimes constitute the second-largest in the religion category. If the laws were written as [Rooney] suggests, they couldn't possibly pass the Constitution's equal-protection muster; yet these laws have.

Finally, bias-crime laws have always been about addressing real, identifiable social pathologies that have a toxic effect on larger society. Bias crimes against veterans -- who for the most part are fairly capable of defending themselves anyway; indeed, it strikes me as insulting to cast them in the role of victims -- are not, as far as anyone can demonstrate, an identifiable problem at this time. However, racially, religiously, ethnically, and sexually motivated bias crimes are indeed very real phenomena.

It is indeed an insult to the victims of those crimes to try to trivialize their suffering with cheap tactics like this. And it's downright obscene to claim that saying so is "anti-military" or "bashing the soldiers."

And of course, Hannity and King rounded out the segment with an exchange that was nothing less than a complete regurgitation of every Zombie Lie about bias-crimes laws known to man -- especially that ole fave, "these are thought crimes":

HANNITY: So I'm trying to understand it. Are we trying, through hate crimes legislation, to get into the thought process behind the crime instead of just punishing the actual crime and the actual act?

KING: Well, Sean, it is a thought. It is the thought crime. And I tried to bring this out in the mark-up before the Judiciary Committee. And I asked the specific question of the sponsors: Is it the perception of the perpetrator, or the perception of the victim?

And I got different answers. But, truthfully, it's both. Now we're trying to, by law, divine what was in head -- in the head of the victimizer, and what's in the head of the victim, who is self-alleged with their particular proclivity and would be protected by law given the circumstances of the legislation that passed off the floor of the House of Representatives.

So I think this is an area of law that we should stay completely away from. I think it brings about this special protected status. And I think that when you set up people that are -- that are victims, then you're dividing people. And so this is an agenda --

HANNITY: All right.

KING: -- of the homosexual activists. And they take this all the way through to imposing same-sex marriage on America.

That's right -- it's all part of the eeeevil homosexual plot. That's why Latino advocates -- the people who are dealing with the hate crimes that have been stirred up by the irresponsible fearmongering of people like Steve King -- and African American groups are all strongly behind this bill too.

Along with the ACLU, which also strongly supports this bill. They all want to create "thought crimes." Right.

Mushy-headed libertarians and liberals and particularly conservatives who see bias-crime laws as creating "thought crimes" -- a concern for which, in over two decades of having these laws on the books, there is scant evidence -- seem to be wringing their hands over a rather abstract notion of freedom, while losing sight of the hard reality that bias-crime laws are about protecting the freedoms of millions of Americans.

Maybe that's because these critics see the only threat to our freedoms as emanating from government. But over the history of our country, there have been notable examples in which people's freedoms were taken away by the acts of their fellow citizens -- the "lynching era" of 1880-1930 being the most prominent. Today's bias-crime laws are the direct descendants of the anti-lynching laws that were never passed at the height of this era, based largely on arguments similar to those raised against bias-crime laws -- a failure for which the Senate recently apologized.

The legacy of lynching remains with us today in the form of hate crimes -- whose purpose, once again, is to oppress and eliminate targeted minorities. Hate crimes have the fully intended effect of driving away and deterring the presence of any kind of hated minority -- racial, religious, or sexual. They are essentially acts of terrorism directed at entire communities of people, and they are message crimes: "Keep out." And they damage both the fabric of our communities and the democratic underpinnings of a free society. Most of all, they create what Yale's Donald Green calls "a massive dead-weight loss of freedom" for all Americans, particularly minorities.

Bias-crime laws aren't merely about "affirming the equality of all people": they're about preserving very real, basic freedoms -- freedom of association, freedom of travel, the freedom to live where we choose, and most of all the freedom from fear -- for every American. The only "freedom" upon which they impinge is that of violent yahoos to threaten and intimidate and take away the freedom of others.

Is that the kind of freedom Sean Hannity and Steve King wish to protect? It seems so. They'll even lie through their teeth about it.



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Hannity is just another chickenhawk Republican too cowardly to enlist himself, who demand that others die in war, and claims to be for the troops..

Republicans couldn't give a rats ass about the vets, particulalry the many homeless vets

about.

defamation lawyers...This talking head is inciting riot and fueling the flames of wingnut upraising...true a small % of Americans identify as repubs but a great many are angry at the outrageous behavior in the markets and the continual Hanratty distortion is playing into thiis!

Call Congress and ask that he be censored....1.800.828.0498!
If they can flip...Nixon -they can get Ailes to shut him down...

lick each other thoroughly afterward?

They're both just pissed that gays have more protection than uneducated dickheads. Hey, if it'll make them happy let's get a bill sponsored to protect the brain dead. We'll call it the Hannity Bill. The next time someone wants to pound on his face they'll face stiffer penalties.

How much you wanna bet that Hannity can't go to many places without worrying for his own safety. You don't see many if any pics of him outside his studio or using soldiers to protect him. KO is putting up the money pussy, I wanna see you get waterboarded. All hat and no cattle.

at least Insanity et al are safe from zombies. They should be happy about that.

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..you say, "They're both just pissed that gays have more protection than uneducated dickheads." You see everybody has equal protection under the law and if a group beats up the uneducated dickheads because they are uneducated dickheads, that's a hate crime because it reflects an attack against a particular group.

And I was going to POST this below but I'm tired and leaving in a moment, Omigosh, Sean Hannity, lying? OH NO, say it ain't so!

Hankey wants Obama's black snake moan. He hates it that Michelle gets it in the Lincoln room 4 times a day. When's Hannity going to Maine to marry Karl Rove?

Is this guy really on their news channel? you gotta be kidding.

No wonder republicans like their FOX news, thank you very much, with their noses in the air.

Never before have so few, screwed the lives of so many.

Fox doctors the truth. Check out the video:

http://mediamatters.org/action/fox_crops/write

If you watch any cable news network it's not news unless an airplane is coming in without landing gear down or a police chase. It's all the same thing. A topic, someone on the left of the issue, someone on the right of the issue and insults.FOX, MSNBC and CNN should all take the word "news" out of their name and replace it with "opinion" or "debate". If their was a tornado in Kansas we'd have people on arguing if it was caused by god or climate and not the devastation.

You don't get news from these people anymore. If you want news go to Knight Ridder or BBC. Stay away from the "big three". They're terrible and an insult to anyone in the past who actually researched and/or reported you the news.

I don't think MSNBC calls themselves news, they are "The Place for Politics". Though your point is well taken and I would add NPR and PBS to the list of credible news sources.

Yes NPR and PBS deserves some recognition.

The Guardian UK
http://www.guardian.co.uk/

I get it.

you didn't hear it right vannity. That lying sack of deceptive shit, king, could have told you that the bill protects gays and straights, people of all ethnic and religious backgrounds. WHY IN THE F*CK would you want to include pedophiles? Why would you want to include "veterans". Are people committing hate crimes against these groups of people?

Jesus, this is absurd. So they lead the brain dead to believe the Democrats are trying to protect pedophiles and not willing to "support our troops". What utter nonsense and ignorance.

God, these people are shameless scum sucking pigs.

Well done! You voiced my thoughts pretty much exactly as I was having them...

Thanks! The absurdity is that there are people who listen to this insane, inane bull$hit! The only reason Hannity is in this game is for the cash.

want to include pedophiles, he specifically wanted to exempt them from the bill.

Hannity is not a veteran,
but could he be a closeted-pedophile?

that's a maybe just like billo never
settled for sexual harassment allegations...DID !

Hannity just seems boring after a few seconds without the patriotic music behind. (I'm sorry sean, but the truth is always best).

Study Beck and limbaugh and practice real hard, and one day you could be like them.

I'm shocked King didn't offer an amendment protecting all heterosexual white males to be exempt from prosecution for any crime period.
Also...did King just use the word "Orwellian"? I keep hearing the Right use that word. Ummm, has King et al., read 1984? Animal Farm?

Fox is outta control. It's time to bring out the boycott, harass the sponsors card.

Tweety just had a conversation with Tom Tancrado twix evolution vs intelligent design.

As much as I've disagreed with Mathews over the years I wholeheartedly commend him for this discussion and his challenge to the ID ass hat.

No kidding. Turns out the republicans want to shift away from science - now that's conservative!

Just how low will people (ok, I'm stretching it) like Fannity and Rep Kink sink? These Rethugs are digging themselves a VERY deep hole.

There are votes at the bottom of that hole. Maybe not majority-getting numbers of votes, but lots of votes nonetheless.

TV viewers, too. It's all about demographics. Hannity's audience - and Rush's, and O'Reilly's - averages more than 60 years of age. The Democrat-hating/Teabagging hysteria of recent weeks is an attempt to reach out to a younger generation of haters.

They know exactly what they're doing. Glen Beck's ratings are through the roof, so the other nutters are following his lead.

The fact that Hannity, a partisan commentator, who like a lot of the punditry, would rather speak before they think, would provide a platform for misinformation about a bill that he ideologically opposes. If the bill does create protected classes, it will be struck down by the courts. All the bill does is provide for harsher sentences if the motivation for a crime can be shown to be based on a bias.

A credible argument they could make is why should we be lenient to criminals who commit a crime out of pure malice rather than bias?

If Hannity really wants to go after a group that protects pedophiles he should take a good hard look at his Catholic Church (and especially a grand jury report that came out recently about the abuses that occured on Long Island. To protect the priests in the report they just names each one a letter in the alphabet e.g. Priest A, Priest B. They damn near ran through the whole alphabet!)

is Hannity religious? not that there's anything wrong with that!

I mean if he's strongly religious or something, then i see a pattern here, that's all.

He may be another instance of mixing church and state which would explain the problem.

He is always flapping his yap about how he is a Christian and that is how he lives his life...he had a good one recently about how even though he is a Christian he believes in the "enhanced interrogation" methods...just like Jesus!

Still being kept away from prosecution by the HMFICs of the Roman Catholic Church.

Nuff Said.

and his 'Page Problem' still being covered for by the whole, bloody congress, so, why shouldn't the 'Church' also protect the guilty??

Everyone knows all pedofiles are REPUBLICONS. Therefore, it is a falsehood that Dems protect them.......ya savvy, A-Hole??

Why doesn't someone investigate this lying liar, and crooked medical examiner that signed a certain death certificate, under highly dubious circumstances?

Haven't we all had enough of lying douche bags to last three lifetimes??

I think you are confusing him with Joe Scarborough who had the dead intern in his office...

hates the ACLU, even though they won a first amendment case on his behalf.

He never talks about that. In fact, but not for the actions of the ACLU, Hammity might have never gotten that radio job back.

They're beside themselves - they simply can't find a way to attack Obama and dems that works. I'll bet they cry themselves to sleep every night.
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Well if that's what this whining is all about then they had better get over it, before they upset the whole dang country, the little babies.

That's it. No more TV time until they sit up straight and start participating in the national discussions again. you have to be firm with little traitors, or they grow up to be big traitors.

it is safe to assume the whole bit regarding pedophilia was a Freudian slip.

Revolting, ain't it?

Aside from Neiwert's explanation of how hate crimes legislation doesn't create specially protected classes of people, and that homosexuality is not the same thing as pedophilia, or similar to it; there's also the matter that the Dems have not, and will not protect pedophiles in any way other than the laws dictate they should. As someone who advocates for survivors of CSA and is one herself, it's disgusting to me that they would slander the Dems this way.

That pedophiles are a minority like blacks or gays?

That being black or gay IS AS BAD AS being a pedophile?

Wow...what a couple of douches.

FYI the soldier attacked at the Toby Keith concert, was attacked by another former soldier, after an altercation. Not sure how you get from there to here. Fact checking and Sean Hanity are like oil and water I guess. Here is a link to some of the facts...
http://merrymadmonk.blogspot.com/2004/09/coward-cornwell-charged.html

BTW, Brent Cornwell, the former 10th Mountain soldier accused of assaulting PFC Foster Barton, "over his shirt", gave to the RNC in 1996. RNC in 1996

Sadly it was Republican on Republican violence, not surprising after having to listen to Toby, but hard to say its any sort of hate crime.

If a REAL pedophile (or bestiaphile, etc) were attacked or killed because of his/her sexual orientation, this bill would apply to him/her as well.

Right?

And if someone were attacked or killed because he/she was PERCEIVED to have such a sexual orientation, this bill would apply to him/her as well.

Right?

I didn't see this question answered.

Hannity lies about hate crimes bill...I am shocked!

at the frequency these stooges do, you might be slightly concerned you could be charged.

Hell, Savage Weiner might as well drop off the air!

Did I miss something? My libertarian friend is all up in arms about this bill protecting pedophiles. He sent me this link from the American Family Association. It wreaks like yesterdays Republican talking LIES. Protection for prostitution? Can SOMEBODY debunk this?
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=787...

Please help me. How many democratic congressmen were caught chasing interns in congress in the past eight years? How many democratic senators were caught wearing diapers and buying hookers? How many democratic senators were arrested and convicted for "wide sitting" on the toilet in the men's room of the airport? Was Ted Haggert a democratic preacher or a rightwingnut extremist pushing legislation to punish gays? I rest my case.

But here are a few.
Rep. Barney Frank. Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s.

Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.

REPRESENTATIVE GERRY Studds, Democrat of Massachusetts, admitted to having sex with a 17-year-old male page.

Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa.

California Democratic Rep. Gary Condit’s affair with an intern

Tim Mahoney (D-FL) - Accepted seat after resignation of Mark Foley for sexual harassment. Mahoney admitted to an affair with his congressional aide and later campaign staffer Patricia Allen.

Roosevelt Dobbins (D-AR) - pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment for fondling a teenager (2005)

Both sides do it.

clarify the legislation each of these people were trying to pass or had pushed to get passed that directly contradicted their actions.
Example: Mark Foley and his Child protection and safety act to protect minors from being solicited online. All the while doing exactly that. For the most part, it is not that they did these things, it is that they act so high and mighty condemning and prosecuting an act that they are actively partaking in. Hypocrisy is what they are being called out for, not necessarily the act itself.

or is Hannity starting to look like Shemp Howard

http://www.wallofshemp.com/images/shempbio.gif

tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth

not one documented case of nam vets being spat upon on their return home

yet king repeats the lie, and hannity says he knows numerous vets who have been spat upon

and being assaulted at a toby keith concert for wearing an iraq t-shirt??? not likely

these amendments were put forward in order to make the law a total joke

You gotta be kidding us hannity you phony piece of excrement. He's good friends with ted nugent who boasted to urinating and defecating in his pants to avoid serving his country and is also known to have had his share of sex with young underage girls. Funny hannity, I never ever heard you criticize your good buddy nugent for his rather disgusting traits.

maybe the prelate of the roman catholic church and its right wing propagandists can weigh in on the issue of protecting pedophiles?

and

this cross-association (or logical dissonance) of gays with predatory behavior and the liberal agenda is just a big ' misinformation jackpot' for these fox propagandists. and it is dangerous to civil society and disgusting.

With all the Republican Law Makers and their friends attacking children, woman and even men this is nothing new.

Ever notice how the Ingrahams, Coulters, Limbaughs, Driers, etc...etc...., are always single and a little weird?

But I could be wrong. Maybe they were cured of teh gay, like Rev. Ted Haggart. In just three short weeks, he went from meth snorting, flaming homo dope-feind, to a beast of a heterosexual!

Insanity and King. Wow. Two psychotic imbeciles trying to tell the biggest lie. It never ceases to amaze me just how stupid these people are.

Sean should be praising the inclusion of child molesters since most of them are conservatives.

a Schmuck

and hate America and are seriously underhanded. What can be done about it? How are they able to edit the truth and remain on the air?

If I wrote this kind of garbage for a newspaper, I'd be fired.

If I taught this kind of garbage in a classroom, I'd be fired.

If I campaigned on this kind of garbage, I might get elected to
a Leadership Position in the GOP!

Kudos, again, to MEDIA MATTERS!
They do an exceptional job sorting through the pundit pit.

Perhaps we need a video format too: replays of Fox shows with a LIAR BANNER
appearing across the screen each and every time, a lie is told.
Who knows, the 21 %, may quickly notice the LIAR banner
and learn what the word means and begin questioning Fixed Fox.

I would like to point out a mistake you made. Your first sentence "The progression of the nation's first federal hate-crimes law" is wrong. It is not the first. The federal Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act (1994) which increases penalties for hate crimes would be the first.

And my reasons for not liking the current bill is that it violates the 10th amendment, and I feel in practice it will violate the 14th also. The reason I feel that in practice it will violate the 14th is that, who are prosecutors going to go after more? The criminal that gets them federal funding or the one that doesn't?

Look at the Child Support Protection Act (H.R. 1386, S. 803). Which gave money to the states for going after people who didn't pay their child support. Which seems like a good idea. But in practice prosecutors spent more time on these cases than others, to get the federal funding. Also a unintended side effect was that virtually all child support had to go through the government. Because the Act gave federal funding to the states on how much they collected in child support, not how much they collected by going after people who were not paying. When I was paying child support, I had to pay to the courts with a money order, cash/checks were no good. And had to pay a fee to the courts to cover the cost of the administration of it. This was mandated by the courts when we went in to set up the child support. At my request.

Anti-American asshole!

Direct out of the AFA. I saw their disgusting email about this, and I'm sure they supplied him with all the talking points he needed.

in one of those white pointy hats.

But Lard-Ass, liar Fattity is very, very proud and totally excepting of his close Pedophile friends in his Reslug party, like boy chaser Limp-Dick Blimpaugh.

How ironic that the Christian cultists are saying anything about pedophilia when Christianity is a defacto dating service for pedophiles.

The real irony is when Steve King claims that "this is truly an Orwellian era" at the 1:40 mark.

This from a man who described Abu Ghraib as "hazing" and claimed that Iraq was safer than DC in 2003.

http://iowaindependent.com/2156/congressman-s...

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