AZ Woman Forced To Give Birth In Shackles By Sheriff Arpaio Deputy
AZ Sheriff Joe Arpaio needs no introduction, his bigotry and illegal activity has been well documented. The latest outrage on his watch comes at the hands of one of his deputies, who forced a woman to give birth while cuffed at the wrists and ankles, then ordered the baby taken from the mother:
The bleeding kept her up all night, drenching her black-and-white-striped jail uniform.
Alma Chacón feared her baby would arrive early. Her nightmare had started with a traffic stop a day earlier. She'd been weeping since. "What if the baby is born here, in the jail?" she thought.
In the afternoon, she was shackled and transported to Maricopa County Medical Center, where she gave birth in a "forensic restraint." She couldn't hold her baby daughter or kiss her. She could only watch as hospital personnel carried the infant out the door. She wouldn't see the baby for 72 days.
Her case raises questions about the use of racial profiling by Maricopa County sheriff's deputies during traffic stops, but, most importantly, sheds light on the mistreatment of unconvicted immigrants inside county jails. Read on...
Chacon did have two warrants for her arrest, but this sort of barbaric treatment goes beyond the pale. The officer claimed he had no choice, but it does raise some serious red flags. Somehow I doubt he truly thought Chacon was a flight risk, or capable of doing serious harm to hospital staff in the middle of giving birth. There is an online petition to remove Sheriff Arpaio, you can view it and sign it here.
Denigrating women isn't new to Arpaio. He has made no secret of his disdain for women and their reproductive rights.
What's happening to our country?
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
happened. We went off the cliff totally about 5 years ago.
..January 2001.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
> What's happening to our country?
We have a black dude in the White House who is far more interested in bipartisanship than he is in doing what's right for the poor and powerless.
What's the need for qualifying the race of anyone only when that anyone happens to be a minority.
And BTW, Obama is as black as he is white. Enough with this sh*t already.
America, you had better wake up.
this kind of behavior is being tolerated
at an alarming pace. what do you think th
rightwingnut conservatives will do if we
continue to ignore and tolerate their
hate, racism and bigotry?
germany and the world learned the lesson
the hard way. history is playing itself
out again because of ignorance in this
country.
What, you think this sort of thing is new? You don't know many Latinos, do you?
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
that was not my point.
try reading a little slower.
I was replaying to Liberal AND Proud. Try LOOKING AT THE THREAD a little slower.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
we'll leave it as a draw
since we don't understand
each other......
You were too quick at opening your mouth, and the previous poster didn't do anything wrong.How the hell is that a "draw?"
Is it so hard for some people to recognize when they are wrong? Jesus.
I'm certain that if Arpaio thought he could dump her on the other side of the border in time for the birth, he would have.
An awful lot of hatred in Maricopa county to have him elected repeatedly with his record.
That's Arizona for you. Arpaio is an extreme example, but he's just the logical extension of the attitudes that place has always had towards half its population.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Can someone explain to me how this POS gets away with this type of behavior time and time again? Rhetorical, I know, but still!! I will be sure to sign the petition. I have a dear friend that lives in Arizona and I'm reluctant to go just because of this POS!
He's a miserable excuse for a human being.
with a little help from his friends.
MyFox Phoenix - 1 hour ago
How about Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio? It's not the first time Arpaio's name has come up for Governor, but a new poll shows he could win.
Arpaio leads GOP gov. candidate poll East Valley Tribune
Sheriff Arpaio tops latest governor poll AZ Central
Because no one wants to cross him. One time allies are now targets. Outright enemies are shown no mercy and the blue hairs in Sun City love him.
"I am not a member of any organized party — I am a Democrat." - Will Rogers
www.phoenixjustice.com
..requests for donations. Unless someone tells me differnent and points to where to sign, I didn't see any page for signing anything.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
God do I hope this woman gets a great lawyer pro bono.
Two warrants for her arrest. Owed more than $1,000 in fines for driving without a license. Misdemeanor shoplifting charge. Undocumented status.
Lives in Arizona
Evert, I hate to piss you off, but accused criminals(and suspected illegal immigrants) have fucking rights too!
the only rights you have are the right to an Attorney. Even with an Attorney if you are in jail you basically have ZERO RIGHTS.
Have you ever been in the slammer?
That is why the prison guards can just sell your organs.
I visit Cook County jail here in Chicago twice a week to counsel most non-violent offenders. Stop watching cop shows, you don't know what you're talking about.
You mean to tell me all those "girls in prison" movies were a cruel lie?
At least I hope so. :)
Wendy O Williams were actually documentaries.
Imma a fan of Wendy O Williams.
Now ever since her suicide all we got is the fake Wendy Williams.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Dang.
"fights" exactly...
I got tossed in the slammer in the 70's for failure to pay a traffic related fine. 4 days and nights with hard core criminals taught me all I needed to know about that "lifestyle".
Telling the judge . . "What is it you don't understand about I can't afford the fine your honor?" was my mistake.
Evet...really? 4 days? You hardened criminal you.
that would be like me saying that 8 hours I spent in a holding cell in Gaston County, NC for failing to stop for a blue light, makes me knowledgeable of the inner workings of prison gangs.
I've spent quite a few months in county lockups, and I'm proud to say that I don't know shit about prison gangs.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
That's only because they've seen and learned from these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykULgeyY3Us&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I spent about 6 hours in lock up once for contempt of court...I've done my time. Lol. Evet somehow thinks that his unfortunate and isolated experiences describe the innerworkings of our criminal justice system.
at courthouses. Every one I've been in is always like ten degrees colder than city or county facilities. Maybe it's so when you finally get to get up to the courtroom you're supposed to now feel a sense of gratitude?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
of urine.
...to make sure that your stay is horrific. When I was arrested for contempt it was because the judge didn't like the way I stared at him...I swear.
Many of us have had bad experiences to tell about in the fucked up U.S. (in)justice system, but it should never numb us into accepting behavior of vile racists like this career Nazi Arpaio.
Evet sometimes he tends to go a bit overboard with his comparisons...
> Evert, I hate to piss you off, but accused criminals(and
> suspected illegal immigrants) have fucking rights too!
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
while, and get back with us when your back on the outside and let us know how it went.
Which leads us to Prison Reform. What ever happen to that?
plus the bullshit "court costs and penalty assessment" fees that are never listed as part of a ticket.
Misdemeanor shoplifting? Probably some overpriced Chinese crap from Walmart, real value probably closer to zero than what was marked as.
None of which warrants the risk of her life or her child's.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
but I will not bleed with sympathy for this woman. She's illegal status, unmarried, has already bred 4 kids, has traffic violations... There is not a whole lot of evidence that indicates she's trying to make a better life here. Her behavior will just perpetuate the poverty she left in her own country. She doesn't need a free lawyer, she needs someone to teach her how to respect herself and be mindful of the impact she has on others. Meanwhile, fire this sheriff and replace him with someone who can follow the law.
-- but how can anyone justify forcing a woman to give birth while wearing shackles, for heaven's sake? This is like something out of Gothic fiction. And as the article linked to above points out, it is illegal (meaning a violation of state statutes and guidelines) for prison authorities to restrain a female convict in any way when she is giving birth.
It shouldn't be difficult to distinguish between disapproval for a person's irresponsible acts (I find it difficult to work up a frothy head of indignation over traffic violations) and outright horror over the kind of abuse that we think only goes on in other countries. Treatment of this sort is a poor way to teach someone self-respect and discipline.
they didn't burn her at the stake in Arizona while she was giving birth.
"I will not bleed with sympathy for this woman. She's illegal status, unmarried, has already bred 4 kids, has traffic violations..."
Traffic violations! Unmarried with kids! Obviously she had it coming.
..that this worthless pos didn't try to have her sent to Gitmo?
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
She's unmarried! Women who bear children without being married deserve to be punished.
gettin all medieval on our asses.
The subtext is clear: 'She stepped out of line; she needs to be punished.' This is what is meant, even if the speaker is irresponsible enough to be ignorant of the implications of railing on a woman for being unmarried or for having multiple children.
I'm far from a raging feminist, but comments like the one above and several others serve as a reminder of the sorts of patriarchal attitudes that we need to do away with once and for all.
No sympathy? No compassion? No empathy? If you’re guilty – you deserve what what you get?
All of what you say may be true. She may be very guilty of all the crimes that she is charged. But where does the harsh treatment end? She was shackled to a bed to give birth, then her baby was taken away. That is cruel beyond reason. What cruelty goes too far, in your non-bleeding world?
Were you there to witness this woman, in the pain of birth, tied down – would you say to her “You deserve this.”? Would you say to her “Now go back to Mexico!” as you took her child?
... the forcible re-education and rehabilitation of people whose lifestyles you disapprove of? And, in the meantime, they have no rights?
You'll do just fine in the new, improved, White Christian America.
this person does not know any undocumented immigrants. Everything said reeks of ignorance.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Because you're well acquainted with this woman, her family, her history, and you know everything about her, right? You've eaten dinner at her house, talked to her relatives, and know her situation, right?
No? Imagine my shock.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Why? The Sheriff's inability to act in a reasonable matter compromised any further punishment. Other than possible deportation, though given the hassles that went down, that is not certain either.
The only people who can rid of Joe are the people under him. And they're either afraid to, or actually (quietly) support him.
I sure am glad the limited government types run Maricopa County.
Or is there no petition to sign at that website?
Help!
I couldn't find it, either.
FB
99%
Personally, I think a little retribution in this case would not be unjust.
I don't care if the woman was illegal, under arrest, or whatever else. This is insane any way you slice it.
This barbarism should not go unpunished.
WTF?! is this world coming to...? That bigoted racist sheriff needs a good smack upside the head! To think someone raised him to be such an evil hateful POS on purpose! Outfrickinrageous!!
Obama to send 34,000 more troops into the quagmire that is Afganistan. Thanks Obama. No second term for you I bet.
I think you're looking for the 'Open Thread'. It's down below.
FB
99%
Obama gets his 34,000 from among the ignorant fucks in Arizona? STARTING with Arpaio and his asshole buddies. Seems to me they'd make excellent fodder for IED's.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
How about some common sense and humantiy? Forget for a moment the charges against this lady, she was fu*king giving birth to a baby for god's sake. She wasn't going anywhere. Do they keep male prisoners in chains when they need to have an operation? I doubt it.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Definitions
Restraints: In the broadest context, restraint is the direct application of physical force to a patient, with or without the patient`s permission, to restrict his or her freedom of movement. The physical force may be human, mechanical devices, or a combination thereof. A specific device in itself does not determine whether it is a restraint, but rather, it is the device`s intended use (such as physical restriction), its involuntary application, and/or identified patient need.
ForensicRestraint: A type of restraint used by law enforcement officials to restrict the movement of a portion of a patient`s body as a means of controlling physical activity and to prevent escape. The forensic officer is responsible for the care and maintenance of the device used (handcuffs, waist chains, leg irons, shackles). The clinical staff are not to remove these devices, except in life/limb threatening circumstances in which the failure to remove them would jeopardize the patient`s life or limb. A Physician/LIP order is not required for the use of forensic restraint, however, staff will ensure that circulation, as well as the patient`s right to nutrition, hydration and toileting, is not compromised. This is a shared responsibility between the correctional facility staff and the hospital staff. If restraints are required for medical/behavioral health reasons then an order must be obtained from the Physician/LIP and the requirements of the appropriate restraint guidelines must be followed.
It says she was shackled by one ankle to the hospital bed with a 12-foot chain. The nurse suggested that Chacon be removed from restraints so they could get a urine sample, but the deputy told them to roll the bed over to the bathroom.
Also, "Sentenced, pregnant state prison inmates are treated better than un-sentenced ones in Maricopa County jails. Arizona Department of Corrections policies state: 'A pregnant woman will not be restrained in any manner while in labor, while giving birth, or during the postpartum recovery period.'"
..the "cruel and unusual" punishment clause of the Constitution.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
I'm sure there must be more than a handful of ACLU lawyers just salivating to get at this case.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
puts a brick up-side that fascist motherfucker Arpaio's head.
Yeah, a woman in the throes of labor is a flight risk... Torquemada would approve.
Torquemada - do not beg him for forgiveness. Torquemada - do not ask him for mercy. Let's face it, you can't Torquemada anything!
-- Mel Brooks
*ahem* Sorry, couldn't resist.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
The sheriff is a piece of excrement that needs to be fired. However, don't act like the woman is 100% innocent.
She's an illegal immigrant with a criminal background who's dropping anchor babies (at least 1, maybe 4) who'll be almost 100% supported by our tax dollars.
This is not a latino immigrant issue. Michelle Malkin is an anchor baby. I live in MA. I've met lots of Irish who were here illegally. There are a lot russians in MA now who come here and go straight on public assistance.
We need to remove the incentives for illegal immigrants who come here and go directly on public assistance and who do not become productive citizens.
Both of my parents immigrated here legally, became citizens, and got skills that made them productive citizens & taxpayers.
What does her guilt or innocence have to do with how she was treated? Which of her crimes justified what she was subjected to?
Prison System. Abu Ghraib Lite.
It's the county jail. They are not the same, nor do they have the same policies. Every county in the U.S. has its own way of doing things; Joltin' Joe's is simply one of the worse ones. Here in Texas pregnant women can be treated the same, if not worse; horror stories come out of Dallas County all the time, but without a face to pin it on.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Thugs with badges like Arpaio?
My paternal grandfather came here under a paper name. My maternal grandmother was born in Montana, returned to China, then came back to the states while pregnant with my mother (a son would have had the right to petition for my maternal grandfather to come to the States - no son, no such luck, and my maternal grandfather was killed in an uprising).
With some of these people - the 'real America' of Sarah Palin - it doesn't matter whether you're here legally or illegally - they hate you and yours.
It doesn't matter who she is or what she's done - at that moment, she was a PREGNANT WOMAN ABOUT TO GIVE BIRTH. You can get your jollies slapping the chains back on afterward, but the fact remains that at that moment, the birth trumps everything else. Anyone who says different is just a sadistic jackass.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Enough with the anchor baby shit, okay? The kids are as American as anyone else who was born in the USA. She didn't commit any crimes that warranted her being treated worse than an animal. How do you know she is being supported by public assistance? Even if she is, who gives a sailing shit? I don't mind my tax money going to babies and their mamas. You don't know what her kids will grow up to be. How fucking arrogant of you to say otherwise? Goody goody fucking gumdrops for your parents. There are a lot of American-born, law-breaking, unproductive assholes as well.
Ahh, well it doesn't matter because her mother was an unproductive illegal. What a douchebag post.
This poor woman gave birth in horrific circumstances. She almost certainly gave birth on her back, which is the most painful way of doing so. (I just had a baby in July, at home and it was very easy since I was able to move around. My first birth resulted in an epidural because I was immobile.) Her baby was deprived of colostrum from her mother's breastmilk and was thus deprived of essential antibodies and such that cannot be replicated in formulas. She was also deprived of her mother's skin, which the baby needed to regulate her heartbeat, breathing and blood pressure and body temp. That child was deprived her her human right to bond with her mother.
I said the sheriff was a piece of excrement for his treatment of the woman and he should be fired. I never said she should have been treated the way she was.
If we had better immigration policies, racist a-holes like the sheriff wouldn't have the opportunity to do abhorrent things like this.
That being said, I don't like my tax dollars being wasted on illegal immigrants who behave criminally and then crank out a bunch of anchor babies and then become dependent on tax payer $$ & public assistance.
I see in all the time in MA. Illegal Irish, Russian, Latino, & Asian immigrants come here, go on welfare, get food stamps, get housing assistance, get household appliance assistance, get free tuition to state colleges while citizens & legal immigrants bust their arses to make ends meet and try to provide for their families.
I worked 3 jobs while I got my college degrees. I don't want my hard earned money going to a bunch of lazy, illegal immigrants who sit on the arse all day, crank out babies that give them more public assistance.
I don't know if you've noticed but our country has been on the edge of a depression because politicans, lobbyists, and corporations have been wasting out tax dollars on reckless policies. The financial incentives for illegal immigrants are a huge burden on the taxpayers.
We need to make it easier for immigrants to get here legally and we need to make it easier for immigrants to get temporary worker permits so they can come here legallly, work, and then go home with the money they earned legally.
Sport. I work hard as well and I don't mind paying so babies don't go hungry. I don't really belive you though. I mean, unless things have drastically changed, you have to have all sorts of proof to enroll in college and a baby ain't one of them.
If living on welfare is so easy, quit your job and sign on the dole. I don't like my hard-earned money going to fund the Industrial Military Complex.
I don't like my money going to fund an illegal war in Iraq, or to bail out banks that should have been allowed to go to bankrupt, or to republican politicians who rob the taxpayers blind, or to illegal immigrants.
If living on welfare is so bad then why do so many do it? Unfortunately life in the U.S on welfare is much better than life in poverty in an impoverished nation.
I had an apartment in a 3 family house in a decent neighborhood that had about 9 Russians, right off the boat, living on one floor. Their mailbox was next to mine. Every month all 9 got all kinds of assistance checks from the state & fed. They had a nice car, had satellite tv, cellphones, and none of them worked. Their living standards were much improved than what they had in Uzbekistan, or where ever they came from. Thanks to your & my tax dollars.
tuition to illegal immigrants
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusett...
...I loathe the United States at times. Even alleged Democrats (even liberals) often harbour xenophobic, misogynistic attitudes.
It worries me.
My post is neither xenophobic or misogynistic. I said the cop should be fired and I never said the woman deserved to be treated this way.
I also said that if we improved the immigration laws of our country then we wouldn't have to have situations like this.
We need to improve the immigration laws so immigrants can get here (legally) more easily. We need to make it easier for foreigners to get temporary worker visas so they don't have to come here illegally to work and earn money for their families.
It never fails to amaze me how people are so willing to have our taxpayer dollars wasted on greedy politicians, greedy corporations, or illegal immigrants who collective get 100s of millions of tax payer $$ (or more) for breaking the law. If one criticizes illegal immigrants who break the law, the criticizer is the bad person.
I have no problems with immigrants who come here legally, get an education, get a job, and become productive citizens. After all, both my parents did exactly that.
I would never to go France, Japan, Mexico, etc. illegally, have a child there so they are a citizen and then start collecting public assistance, so why should I tolerate it here (or be an apologist for someone who does)?
No, it was xenophobic and mysoginistic.
Firstly, no one was discussing this woman's record as being unfair or something she should not be beholden to. The fact of the matter is that her pervious crimes are irrelevent to her current treatment and you are the only individual who is seemingly eager to conflate the two. No amount of peddling backwards is going to explain why you decided to bring up her past record and your 'lack of sympathy' when you allegedly agree that as an isolated incident, what she endured is damn wrong - which is all anyone ever said.
Your inability to inexcuse her illegal status and her number of children when discussing an issue unrelated to these things (she is, after all, a human being) does speak volumes about your worldview, sir. Oh, it may have been wrong for her to endure what she endured, but just look at how many kids she has pumped out. Please, spare us all of your stories about your salt-of-the-earth parents and how they did this-and-that and were model citizens. This may come as something of a shock to you, but there are all sorts of people in the world, of various psychological states, from different experiences, ad infinitum.
Your worldview about 'good, hardworking immigrants who come to the United States legally' and 'greedy welfare queens who long to suck us dry' is painfully naive - and that's being kind.
i've never backpedaled. and unlike many bleeding hearts here, i'm not an apologist for people who break the law.
i live in MA, one of a few states that are prime examples of why we need immigration reform. and it has nothing to do with skin color or sex. we have all kinds of illegal immigrants here. one of their primary motivations for coming here is all the free money that we give them hand over foot.
also, from the beginning i've said that if we improve immigration laws then the woman above wouldn't have to go through the experience she did.
i worked in hospital ERs for 10 years so i've seen every kind of pain & suffering that you can imagine. i've also seen every kind of abuse to the system as well.
so my worldview is not naive, on the contrary, my worldview is quite educated. as i said earlier life in the US on welfare is much better than life in poverty in an impoverished nation.
out nation is in a dangerous financial situation. when you & i run out of money or abuse our credit, we lose everything and go bankrupt. however, our politicians just keep taking and taking. in MA about 15 years ago our state tax was raised to fix a financial emergency. the legislature said they'd roll it back once it was gone. a couple of years ago the voters passed a referendum to roll back the tax increase. even though the voters approved it the state legislature ignored us and said 'no'.
so, let's improve the immigration laws so foreigners can come here more easily & legally. if foreigners just want to work for 6 months and go home with their earnings, let's make it easier for them to get temporary work visas.
i want to improve the system. you just want to encourage illegal behavior and throw all kinds of taxpayer dollars at it. you are the true xenophobe & mysoginist. you want to force people into illegal behavior and reward it with free money.
Three complaints:
Firstly, you are attempting to use your own genetics, upbringing, and life experiences as a guide for how all people should behave. That's simply ludicrous.
Secondly, your post is once again filled with non-sequitors, such as tying the current U.S. financial crisis and irresponsible politicians to this woman and her alleged behaviour. (I say "alleged" because you've already assumed her to be a lazy parasite based on her number of kids and so forth, which is judgemental in the way you'd expect from a person with a massive chip on his or her shoulder.)
Finally, no one here is playing the apologist, and it would be kind of you to put a cork in this rampant projecting you're doing. We are speaking of an isolated incident--her treatment at the hands of this asshole sheriff--and it is wrong no matter what else she has done in her life. Period. You can go on about her record or 'those fat cats in Washington!' or immigration policies all you'd like, but you are needlessly conflating a simple issue: what this woman endured was wrong. That's all that was ever suggested, which you've admitted that you agree with - so why do you keep trying to assault her character when no one was defending it? I don't care if she's a terrible fucking person, because she has human rights. I don't care if immigration is a problem, because she still has human rights. If you don't disagree, stop acting like you do.
Instead of being ashamed, or embarrassed by this turd, Phoenix and Az seem to embrace the SOB. God what has happened to us?
This is how all prisoners are treated in a non-jail hospital. I'm a Paramedic and have a prison in my district and all prisoners have restraints on them when they leave the prison no matter what,even if they are dead and the restraints are never removed.
Oh REALLY? While in delivery? In the delivery room... just how sterile is that?
A normal delivery room is a non-sterile room.
Oh yeah, and had she been a blue eyed, white woman... I wonder which 5 star hotel room would have been made available for her delivery room?
"She wouldn't see the baby for 72 days"
72 days... that is evil, cartoon evil...
But since when does warrant=conviction, and conviction=license to abuse.
In the Belly of the Beast written by Jack Abbott and published in 1981.
Arizona seceded from America. State is corrupt thru & thru.
Phonenix, the same city who's airport allowed that hysterical mother to die while strapped to a chair? What is it with these people?
Approved by more Bush torturers than Obama's.
There seem to be a lot of people in this thread that have a mistaken notion of police mistreatment being somehow legal because it happens.
All cops need to be psychologically profiled for violent-brutal tendencies before hire. Brutality is too common in our militarized police forces.
..sheriff joe arpaio was jailed in Mexico when he was found on the wrong side of the border. "I was huntin'", explained the sheriff. Local law enforcement officials offered that while that may be so, he still had to be arrested and thrown in jail until trial. While under arrest, he was not allowed to use the toilet since he was an un-documented alien.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
What a pack of fucking scumbags.
Inhuman God damned fucking scumbags.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Will Obama have the sheriff and mother over for beers to iron this out?
*spits out soda*
NOBODY 2012
If you're not a full-blooded American Indian take your skanky arse back to what-ever country your sorry relatives came from!
The petition link doesn't go to a petition.
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