We knew Glenn Beck was going to deny any culpability for his role in inciting a right-wing nutcase named Byron Williams, who got into a shootout with Oakland police officers last week when they pulled him over en route to his planned attack on the San Francisco offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU. After all, Beck always cries, like his conservative cohorts, that eeeeevil libruls are just trying to "silence" him whenever he incites acts of violence.
Personal responsibility? That's for liberals and black people, we guess.
But his denial yesterday on his Fox News show went beyond mere cries of "bloody shirt!" -- though it contained that, too. What he attempted to do was claim some kind of equivalence and another Oakland incident involving shots fired at the police -- even though the claim is just nakedly false:
The next thing is, they're painting people into terrorists -- painting people into dangers.
Um, you know, we had a sniper in, um, Oakland, California, trying to kill police. At the same time we have another guy who appears to be against the Tides Foundation, uh, and he goes down and he's going to try to kill people at the Tides Foundation. I'm tied to the Tides Foundation in this story because, quote, how scary is this? We have searched all the television records and Glenn Beck is the only host that spoke about the Tides Foundation in the past year. That's terrifying.
But I'm tied to that. But nobody's even talking about the sniper from the left trying to shoot the police officer.
So where do you stand on violence?
Let's parse this carefully, because it's important to understand just how deep Beck's mendacity is here.
First, let's be clear that no one is "painting" Glenn Beck as a terrorist -- and there should be no question, frankly, that Byron Williams fully intended to be a terrorist.
More significant, though, is the fact that there is no evidence whatsoever that the sniper case in Oakland involved any political motive at all. As you can see from the Oakland Tribune report, this appeared to be largely a case of someone who was angered by a police drug bust, or simply hated cops. That stands in direct contrast to the Williams case, which was unmistakably motivated by political hatred.
We know that particularly because of the information from Williams' mother about his motives:
She said her son, who had been a carpenter and a cabinetmaker before his imprisonment, was angry about his unemployment and about "what's happening to our country."
Williams watched the news on television and was upset by "the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items," his mother said.
... She said she then checked the locked safe where she kept her guns, all legally purchased and owned, and found that they were also missing.
Janice Williams said she kept the guns because "eventually, I think we're going to be caught up in a revolution." But she said she had told her son many times that "he didn't have to be on the front lines."
And how did Byron Williams come to choose the Tides Foundation as a target? What television show did he watch that made him think the Tides Foundation was an evil entity worthy of being shot up and terrorized.
Well, as Beck openly admits -- and as Media Matters explains in detail -- there was only one show that did so -- Glenn Beck's.
Moreover, Beck is being disingenuous in the extreme to describe his role in this as merely "talking about" the Tides Foundation -- he viciously (and groundlessly) demonized them as an organization intended to "destroy capitalism", a "Trojan horse" engaged in "indoctrinating children" and "warping your children's brains" with the idea that "capitalism is evil", the "nastiest of the nasty," a bunch of "far left radicals" who are "infiltrating" and "failing capitalism" so they can "destroy it."
These are all utterly false and base smears, of course. But if you were a violent and gullible right-winger prone to anger, you probably would be inspired by this kind of rhetoric to try to take them out. Which fits the description of Byron Williams to a T.
As we've said about Beck previously:
Because we believe in freedom of speech and freedom of thought, there will probably always be haters like Richard Poplawski among us. Inevitably they will be driven by fear: the fear of difference. Because to them, difference of any kind is a threat.
And what we know from experience about volatile, unstable actors like them is that they can be readily induced into violent action by hateful rhetoric that demonizes and dehumanizes other people. And thanks to human nature and those same freedoms, we will certainly always have fearmongering demagogues among us. But the purveyors of such profoundly irresponsible rhetoric need to be called on it -- especially when they hold the nation's media megaphones.
Tragically, it's becoming increasingly clear that both Beck and Fox News have no intention whatsoever of stopping this profoundly irresponsible behavior. Which means that he's going to continue whipping up violent, unstable nutcases with his scapegoating and demonization.
Which means that someday, someone is going to finally succeed in a violent attack on one of his targets. Someday, there will be a lot of people killed by one of Beck's eager acolytes. Someday, he won't be able to hide behind his whining that eeeevil libruls are trying to "silence" him. Someday, it will be unmistakably clear to everyone exactly what he has been doing. Someday, he will be finally, irrevocably, disgraced.
We will all be in mourning that day. But it seems that until then, he will never stop.



Because in Beck's narrow, black and white little mind, drug use = dirty f*cking hippie = librul. He should know better as he is not liberal himself but is certainly acquainted with substance abuse. But then reality isn't what Beck is interested in or what he peddles, is it?
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
Piddles...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"black and black..." is more like it.
Morality is the basis of truth and truth is the basis of all morality.
Gandhi
Beck lies , period .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSB7HTFECdk
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Correct.
Beck IS a terrorist, no need to "paint" him as one.
A terrorist who incites others to do his dirty work.
More dangerous than a lone terrorist.
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
:)
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
he has responsibility here. Why else would he be tap dancing so fast?
Someday was months ago. Years ago. But, some folks learn faster than others.
And some folks don't want to learn.
Then of course, there are the folks who just eat this crap up. It fuels them. It gives them a reason to exist. Otherwise, they'd have to admit that
1, they are wrong.
2, they're gullible incapable of discerning fact from fiction.
3, they are not really interested in truth. They are more interested in hate.
4, Thinking for themselves is beyond them.
5, They like to be spoon fed info.
6, They are without any real meaning in their lives.
7, In short, they're losers
By no means do I mean to suggest all faux viewers are all such lemmings capable of committing such crimes.
But, there are enough of them, coupled with the likes of Beck and his soapbox, that they are a threat to the social fabric of this nation.
Beck needs to be called out vociferously for his actions.
How many people need to die before he admits what he's doing is just flat out wrong?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
The whole FOX republican "thing" is simply Tribalism.
Tribalism attacking a secular melting pot.
That's why Beck is always so miserable.
It's as if Beck is coming to the boil, sitting in a big black kettle over an open fire. ;)
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I think Beck technically, has a few notches on his microphone already.
doesn't he?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Which means that someday, someone is going to finally succeed in a violent attack on one of his targets. Someday, there will be a lot of people killed by one of Beck's eager acolytes. Someday, he won't be able to hide behind his whining that eeeevil libruls are trying to "silence" him. Someday, it will be unmistakably clear to everyone exactly what he has been doing. Someday, he will be finally, irrevocably, disgraced.
Why? Jim David Atkisson didn't slow 'em down, did he? I see no reason to think they wouldn't continue to wash their hands of it no matter how many people are killed by nutjob viewers/readers, even ones who cite their inspirations by name.
He posted this a week or two ago.
It's Atkisson's Manifesto.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
I don't recall any teevee personalities spouting off about the evil Oakland PD. On the contrary, they seemed to back them fully when they shot the guy at the Bart station.
... train with the OPD, but are not the same entity.
Oops, sorry 'bout that. I'm in the extreme north and only get sporadic Julie Haener.
Point remains nearly the same though, nobody was goading anybody to take back the OPD.
I'm thinking this is the last post about Beck I'll ever read. All it does is feed my ulcer and what's the point? I already know that every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie. I already know he's going to get a lot of people killed. In fact, everybody who reads these posts knows that. The people who NEED to know it either live in a constant state of denial or are outright liars themselves or they're so un-adept at critical thinking the posts might as well be written in Chinese. One thing I'm grateful for is that it's Neiwert who has to keep up with this guy and not me.
This is CYA by Beck. The only problem is that it won't work. Beck is the only one who mentions the Tides Foundation. Over and over and over and over. Nooooo Byron Williams was not going to target Tides because Beck bad mouthed it over and over and over and over again. No it was a little fairy that told Byron Williams about Tides, yeah that's it, a fairy.
I look at Beck and I can't help but think that if you got physically close to him you would smell his stink.
in Idaho that smelled like hot dogs.
You're right, he reminds me of the smoos from Lil Abner.
is not just a blowhard, he is a committed dominionist, look at the "professors" from "beck u"
http://www.glennbeck.com/becku/professors.htm...
as a godless commie, i don't have to be shy about calling out cultists; such as the mormon church and their whacky beliefs, like the "white horse" prophecy.
http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/whitehors...
glenn beck wants to overthrow the government of these united states, not reform, overthrow. it would be so nice to be able to say that the dominionists had been committed, because that is where they belong, in a mental hospital.
Odd, I didn't know George Bush is mentioned in Mormon mythology.
tap dance. Not a pretty site.
The fact is, while many people have an inherent distrust of the police, they don't have a disillusioned view that there should be no police.
... a 'liberal' 'left-wing' sniper?
Is that you? Where's your chalk board with all the arrows?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
I think you're on the wrong blog. Isn't stormfront more your philosophy? Do you think calling the president and FL obie and meesha is going to make people hate them? You don't sound clever or informed at all. You're hatred for the first black president is transparent, to say the least.
Well said.
right-wing blogs. It makes you look embarrasingly stupid.
Among the many lies and misconceptions in your post, lets look at the simplest. As of April 19, 2010, Obama had played golf 32 times since taking office (per article at Golf.com). That is a rate of once every 2 weeks, not 4 times per week.
Please remember how that kind of hate broadcasting ended up killing millions. We have a lot more people than Rwanda. And we are more heavily armed than Rwanda. The death toll could be more than 100 million when this is done. Keep on thinking that it can't happen here as the pressure and hate keeps on increasing.
As my mother often likes to say ;"Common sense has to come into play sometime." Most people, especially older people like her doesn't believe that what happened in Rwanda will happen here. Mainly because people here in the U.S. have a sense of even though we have all these guns, we have the sense to use them responsibly.
Many people here in the U.S. can't understand why people in places like africa and afganistan kill so many people. I think it's because of this inablity to understand why other people would kill another for any reason is why it would be more difficult to have Rwandan style killings here in the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKITpVovTAE&fe...
To Distraction
Rewrite one sentence Glenn Beck uttered orally in his usual strangled syntax:
What he said! "But nobody's even talking about the sniper from the left trying to shoot the police officer.
What he could have meant? "But nobody
'sfrom the left's even talking about the sniper... trying to shoot the police officer."By the way, there is about the same amount of evidence proving there really was a sniper in Oakland at all as there is tying Byron Williams to Beck. Little to none.
I do find it humorous that the "alleged" sniper incident involved a drug bust outside a place called the Acorn Apartments.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Every tribe has it's Crazy Horse and Beck is the Republican Tribe's
Crazy Horse.
Usually a high ranking, well adorned position in the tribe.
Beck is no doubt very proud.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Actually, Crazy Horse was a warrior. Beck's a coward. He's more like Wovoka - a crazy rabble rouser.
What do you expect from Christianity? Christianity is the world's worse terrorist death cult bar none, worse even than their Islamic and Israeli ideological colleagues.
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