As we mentioned, the folks at Fox News were all up in arms yesterday about Anita Dunn's scathing commentary in which she pointed out the cold truth: Fox News has become a propaganda arm of the Republican Party. In fact, the outraged howls could be heard on every Fox program yesterday (except Shep Smith's).
Fox's chief defense is that the White House is confusing its opinion shows with its news coverage. It ran one such "news story" outlining the "attacks" by the White House on Fox, which included the following fine whine from Fox News Senior Vice President Michael Clemente:
"It's astounding the White House cannot distinguish between news and opinion programming. It seems self-serving on their part."
Actually, the White House is not alone. Indeed, anyone watching Fox News throughout the day will suffer much of the same confusion.
Fox is trying to pretend that only on its "opinion shows" such as Glenn Beck, The O'Reilly Factor, and Hannity is there free-ranging criticism of President Obama and his administration. But that's a load of hooey.
If you watch Fox's daytime "news" programs -- from Fox & Friends to Happening Now to Special Report with Bret Baier (where this report aired) -- you'll find that, while they lack the viciousness of the "opinion" programs, they nonetheless are heavily slanted with an anti-administration bias. "Reporters" like Carl Cameron and James Rosen constantly bring on Republican spokespeople and reliably transmit GOP talking points as though they represent fact (when in reality they usually have an estranged relationship with the truth). Anchors like Gretchen Carlson and Trace Gallagher regularly comment on the news they're reporting with an unmistakable right-wing slant.
A classic case, in fact, is this very "news" story that ran both on Baier's segment and earlier on Happening Now: It is wholly a defensive piece of propaganda that reliably gives the Fox News line -- comparing Obama's recognition of cold reality with Richard Nixon's paranoid "enemies list" -- with no attempt whatsoever to explain the White House's point of view.
If you wanted to see why the White House might confuse Fox's "news" programming with its "opinion" shows, one need look no further than this "news report" itself. Speaking of "self-serving."
Of course, there is a mountain of such examples already plunked in the middle of our national discourse. The most notorious recent such case was Fox's ardent promotion of the anti-Obama Tea Parties, beginning back in April and continuing through the "Tea Party Express, which produced such "news" segments as the one where Griff Jenkins was openly cheerleading the tea parties, and a Fox producer was caught working up the crowd to cheer. Then, of course, there was the whole 9-12 event, which Fox not only avidly promoted (it was, after all, wholly the creation of Fox's Glenn Beck) but actually attacked other networks for ostensibly failing to cover it as avidly as they did.
But that's just scratching the surface. Everyone knows it -- and Fox just wants to pretend it all away.



Bring back the fairness doctrine.
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all they do is projection. fox news, all lies, all the time....
"It's astounding..." is an opinion. Nothing newsworthy or remotely journalistic would ever begin with 'it's astounding'!
So, it's not just the lies. FOX works hard to develop an ideological framework for every issue. It's called propaganda. The more this is exposed in such a way that even Teh Stoopid can grasp it, the more the Corporate Megalomaniacs worry that their propaganda will cease to be effective.
I believe we are making a difference. I believe FOX will be obsolete soon. We can only hope FOX becomes obsolete VERY soon.
According to this graph from Gawker, http://gawker.com/5332558/whats-bad-for-the-g...
What's Bad for the GOP Is Good for Fox News!
and vice-versa...
Long live Fox!
;o)
The confusion appears to lie on the Fox side of things.
Like so?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAZm35YGed4
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effing moniker off the Logo then, Fox. You're not "news" and never have been. Then no one can bitch at you for being the unethical pieces of crap that you are.
Fox Right Wing Crap is what your logo should say. And then you can stop being a pansy whining cowardly little crybaby.
In an effort to respond to Obama administration criticism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZZivl5iKCo
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
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See I said so last week, BillO is spewing milder talking points so that he can be held up as "fair"!
Fox News, fairly transparent.
Why did this "news story" sound like a commercial for fox? Touting BillO demographic stats?
Since 95% of everything Cluster-Fox puts on the air is phony and in its' own right propaganda by definition I wonder what they are squawking about?? Unless, it's just for the sake of squawking..which is normally the case. Pravda did the same thing..Ooops, I forgot - Cluster-Fox IS Pravda
They get to play the victim "Li'l Ol' us, what'd we ever do to Obama? Alls we're doin' iz reportin' th' newz..."
I actually saw Hannity deliver the above line - after 2 solid years of Rev Wright and 15 months of Bill Ayers, every single night!
On one of Fox's shows they dug up two quick clips. One was Beck saying he didn't want the president to fail and the other was BillO saying something about being proud of the president for something. Both were snippets and you just knew that after each something more had been said that was not positive. It was kind of funny they had to search around, find something positive and then cut it quick before the bad stuff was said.
Look at the people who are Fox contributors and there's your answer, right there.
The white house called fox out on their shananigans and it stung their little foxy asses.
They were awful before, but Glenn Beck put the big bright spotlight on their craziness.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Calling Fox a news channel is like calling MSNBC a weather channel. MSNBC does have weather reports, but they sure as hell don't qualify as a weather channel.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Yup.
Fox would have you to believe that because they ALSO reported a fire in Ca or a flood in Ga that they are a news network. The fact is, they only “report” these OTHER stories to give pretense to being a news network. Call them on their obvious bias and self-serving selection and they will scream “Fire” or “Flood” – then blame Liberals for it.
Not surprising. They were created for only one purpose – and most everybody knows what that purpose is. The sad thing is, unlike Pravda which everybody knew was propaganda, many Fox viewers can’t tell the difference.
There will always be a place for stupid people to gather and also someone will be there to use them.
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ausience participation shows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl-0SUEa5Fc
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
What they squaking about?
They always made it clear they wanted to be the alternative to MSM
Which they always claimed was "liberal," and for the Fairness Doctrine
So by definition, to be the alternative they would have to be conservative, and against fairness.
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Maybe their new slogan should be "We comment, you decide". Because there sure as hell isn't any "reporting" going on there.
Fox News
"We lie, you buy it".
above link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnfAha9HEzE
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Calling faux a news channel make as much sense as calling them a T&A channel...
...Oops...never mind.
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"It's astounding faux news cannot distinguish between news and opinion programming. It seems self-serving on their part."
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When you feel it necessary to say every other sentence that you are fair and balanced, one might suspect that you aren't.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
When they all started doing stuff like "America's most trusted news source," etc. it smacked of desperation to me. Like they were all begging you to believe them. You're the effing NEWS for f*ck's sake. It's you GD job to produce the facts and dig out the truth.
Actually it's brilliant marketing just by the fact that they've brainwashed a certain loyal segment of the population. If a message is repeated over and over and over again, it becomes truth. Weaker minds are unable to understand that they've been brainwashed and are insulted by the thought that they don't have minds of their own. That said, Fox should not be able to call themselves a news channel.
More people watch professional rasslin' than Fox News. Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity may claim an audience of 30 million (highly doubtful), but this is still a very small segment of the population. These right wing hate mongers are only preaching to the choir, roughly the 20-25% who would never support President Obama, no matter what. The power of these thugs is highly over rated, they couldn't deliver a victory for the GOP last November. Fox is most definately an arm of the Republican party as is Limbaugh. They can cry all they want, but the majority of intelligent people do not pay any attention to this right-wing noise machine.
A two headed calf will draw a hell of a crowd, but that doesn't mean the calf has a damned thing of value to offer. I feel the same way about Palin, sure she draws a crowd but the real question is what value is she.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Sarah Palin had a Downs baby not a two headed calf.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
It's not her little baby the crowds come to see, even if she does show him off as some sort of novelty.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
The kid's not a novelty, he's an accessory. Why do you think she needed that new wardrobe. Not everything goes with a Down's baby.
I thought you called her the cow.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
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I said Sarah draws crowds just like a two headed calf does, because people like to look at freaks. Same for Glenn Beck. He draws a lot of viewers who just can't believe the bastard is not in a mental hospital somewhere where he can be protected from himself. I remember when people like beck were signed up for deals to appear in sideshows at the circus. Now days they get paid millions to be on tv, but the game is the same.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
You cannot put lipstick on a cow. But you can be happy if you've a mind to do it.
was your contribution, right?
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How can anyone who does something so frequently be so consistently bad at it?
Did he even bring up her child? You take hombrage for something that was never said.
right over your head.
No kidding!
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Hombrage?!? Did you mean umbrage???
You might want to add thefreedictionary.com to your favorites...
is Spanish or something...
:D
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Quizas?
took when the Mexicans whupped our compadres at the Alamo. It is, as Tyler hints, a more mask-you-line form of umbrage. "Madder than a two headed calf" is how one often described the angry Texicans as they contemplated their revenge while fleeing toward the Louisiana border until they discovered
the Mexican Army had outrun them in an effort to block their retreat. What happened next is another story of Texas glory, but I am not here for that, but merely to say democracy7 may be right. He may have tripped over us by accident without knowing what he was getting into. That is how Texas got to be independent.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
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about FOX viewers. The report says FOX has the most balanced group of libs, independents, and right-wing wackos. How could that be? Well, the wackos never watch ANYTHING BUT FOX. The rest of us are probably just tuning in not for news but to see the new outrage of the day. I'm a Canadian and I just had CNN cut from my cable because of Lou Dobbs' innanities. Thoughtful Americans should boycott FOX and all their advertisers -it's not censorship, it's voting with your feet.
they are frantically playing defense.
whodathunk?
observation.
that I am not the president. At a minimum, they would be facing a concentrated effort from the DoJ to prosecute them for multiple racketeering counts of defrauding the public under wirer, radio and television fraud provisions of the RICO act, and their FCC licenses would be under review for failing to live up to their obligations to represent the public's interests as a condition of holding licenses to use the People's airwaves and bandwidth.
FOX, and other MSM propagandists, are out of their minds to confuse rights of free speech and the press with constitutionally unprotected activities like criminal fraud or incitement to sedition and insurrection.
I had the same thoughts a few months ago. I would declare war on the bastards, starting with RICO violations.
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a Lunatic Asylum. -Havelock Ellis
... freedom of expression being what it is.
The main way to tackle FOX and their vermin kind is via education. Which makes sense why now FOX et al are starting to go target second graders for their intimidation efforts.
I cant distinguish between Disinfotainment and Fox "news" ....
thats why I dont pay to have it spewed into my home.
Murdoch is a foreign terrorist ...deport him.
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Let's ask Joe Scarborough and Mika what they think about this. They are both experts in every field these days, or at least they would like you to think so. Next stop for both of them should be Fox and they can drag Pat Buchanan and Liz Cheney with them. Keep the old gang together 'cause they are just so damned much fun.
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you would not believe how many times i have written to joe and msnbc over the crap he says on that show of his. i have told him flat out to move to fox.
i have also written msnbc repeatedly over that buchanan. the man needs to go. i am so sick and tired of him and his nixionian idiocity. he really needs to pull his head out of tricky dicky's a**.
the man is nothing but a religious nut job bigot racist. his intellectualism seems to be completely psuedo. he just spouts out the same old tired phrases and examples.
my partner thinks joe and his gang do a comedy show. i don't fnd it in the least bit funny.
forget Looney Lou!
recently says it all: Hitler was NOT a warmonger.
I remember two occasions when Morning Joe was funny. First was when Rep Weiner handed Joe his ass on a silver platter and left Joe speechless. Second was recently when Max Blumenthal did the same thing to the point of making Joe so angry he turned his back on Max. I truly think Joe came within seconds of yelling for someone to cut Max's microphone.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
So did faux report on the teabaggers intimidating kindergartners?
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Glenn praised the tea baggers for speaking up about the school's video and encouraged more people to stand up and take their country back. Now he is taking aim at mothers and teachers to draw them into his dark world. His next step will probably be trying to convince fetuses that they too should "stand up".
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Having them look in the mirror is probably too painful.
Fav video of the tea baggers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y&fe...
If it wasn't this, it'd be something else.
But they love playing the victim card. That's what they do.
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"WATBs R Us."
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car chases. they do car chases really well. they must have deals with every news station in america for helicopter camera feeds.
This much whining typically precedes a necessary diaper change.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
don't change their diapers. They merely scoop out the excess and air it.
Faux's crybabies and bedwetters are again proving the White House right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPkDHvN0sTY
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I can't reconcile Fox's weak concerns about being shut out with BushCo's refusal to sit down with anyone BUT Fox News... I know this is indicative of an obvious point, but I can't grasp it....!!
Any teevee station that has Karl Rove on regularly, can't be considered anything near middle of the road.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Bill Kristol, Michelle Malkin, Liz Cheney, Ann Coulter... gosh, I'd have to be here all day to list the WATBs that lurk around waiting for another few minutes on FOX...
Faux Noise has been blocked for many, many years now in my house because it has always been an obvious political arm for the Reslug party.
The right does a far better job at discrediting themselvs than left wing critics ever could...
The clincher for me was years ago when Hillary was having a book signing of her autobiography in NYC. Coincidentally, it was the first day that news was coming about about the lies and cover ups about WMD in Iraq. Which is the bigger story, right? Well, FOX news had its reporters every 15 minutes interviewing people outside the booksigning, asking "Did Hillary know what Bill was doing, and when did she lie about it". I watched all day, and heard two short references to the WMD scandal. Fair and balanced.
Referring to what faux does as "news"
Is like referring to what the jonas brothers do as "rock".
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it is like calling what the jonas brothers do music. too, also, wink.
all those boys got going for them is cute, and that is fading fast.
Who's to say that they won't be the greatest band ever when they grow up?
Monkees.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
People say they monkey around.
But they're too busy singing
To put anybody down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgNxuNaYHsk
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Well, not really. That was Neil Diamond's baby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6tgOEpb424
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they could be the next In Sync, or New Kids or Milli Vanilli.
Aim high!
Tue, 10/13/2009 - 13:01 — Blue Lensman
Who's to say that they won't be the greatest band ever when they grow up?
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Or when their balls drop.
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Remember these guyz?
http://beattrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/...
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i turned on the television around 7:17 am est on friday to watch the moon get blowed up. msnbc had david axelrod on and they were talking about the peace prize, which i had not known had been given out. i flipped to fox just to see what their coverage was.
i landed in the middle of 4 people sitting around a high table on stools with some woman i don't know the name of asking a guy who must have been the fake dem of the day why they would give it to obama.
he jokingly said something about for not being bush.
then this republican guy went on and on about the lefties not being able to get over bush and the for not being bush was worked into the back and forth between them.
then they went to the moon bombing after which i turned off the television and went to bed. when i woke up the for not being bush was the meme of the day.
of Americans, that was enough.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dfoVqhQVyQ
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Hell, the repubs haven't gotten over Clinton.
(much less aknowledge it was a Republican, Lincoln, who sent him.)
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
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This is eerie. I scrolled down to the bottom of these comments and there is a picture of BillO along with the question, "Is Fox news fair and balanced?"
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and the photos of Bible Spice and Lady Skeletor.
Barf!
difficulty telling news from opinion.
as you can see over here.
they are only the most brazen. do you think CNN is really any better? they are all complicit in "massaging" the news to fit their agenda. you really want to know why the old media guards are scared of the bloggers? because more and more people are beginning to catch on that they are all a bunch of scurrilous douchebags. they are all liars.
CNN has become a wannabe FOX anyway.
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a Lunatic Asylum. -Havelock Ellis
I don't recall Fox complaining much when Bush and his henchmen, including Cheney, regularly gave interviews to Fox only while largely shunning CBS, ABC, MSNBC, etc.
Can Fox spell "Hypocrite"?
I can..."Hannitybeckoreilly"
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Stewart and Colbert should sue .... Fawks is tarnishing the good name of Fake News.
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last night. The already own cable news.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
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blocked in Canuckistan ... :-(
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Can you watch it at comedy central's website?
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Thanks POP, last time I looked CC's site was a navigational mess ...
just dont want to spend the time trying to dig thru and find it ...
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Here's a direct link to the Daily Show:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/251...
What Jon did to CNN was a thing of beauty. Yesterday CNN did a report about the President never playing basketball or golf with any women. CNN was so very concerned. They said he did have strong women in his administration but they got the vapors worrying about his not including females in his sports events. Finally a news stataion picked up on what Americans are worried about today.
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jeez ... cause of course Baby Bu$h spent ALL of his time
riding horses(...oh yeah he was skeered of horsies ...) ... mountain biking and clearing brush with strong capable women ...I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
No sane strong capable woman wanted to be seen near bush. I don't recall any women out there on the ranch clearing brush with him. I don't recall any women falling off their bikes with him. And lastly, I don't recall any women choking on pretzels with him.
Just imagine if President Obama was seen playing golf with women or shooting hoops with women. The media would be all over that saying the President can't win playing against guys so he plays with women.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Bush wouldn't play sports with Laura cuz she killed a guy.
Laura is Hell on Wheels.
I don't think that was the reason. I think she just got tired of playing Candyland with him all the time. Okay that and Go Fish. He liked to play War with a deck of cards but it was too easy to beat him because he didn't know which of any two cards beat the other. Battle Ships was another game he liked but he kept sinking his own ships.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXkVZ0rloio
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Tue, 10/13/2009 - 13:05 — real_earl
Stewart and Colbert should sue .... Fawks is tarnishing the good name of Fake News.
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They're also tarnishing the good name of Guy Fawkes.
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Does anybody know any liberals or progressives who watch Fox for anything but the Simpons? I find that pretty difficult to believe.
It should be for it's comedy value. God knows it has no other value.
republicanism is a mental illness!
the bulk of the television I do watch is on FOX.
Mondays — House, Lie To Me
Tuesdays — Hell's Kitchen
Thursdays — Fringe
Fridays — Dollhouse
I'm going to burn in hell aren't I?
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
'Bones' on the list? Yes.
me-oww!
Glenda was on the TV in a work lounge yesterday and I had the "pleasure" of listening to his "show" for a few minutes. The guy was ranting about the gubmint coming after Fox News headquarters and I kid you not, he was using model tanks and helicopters to demonstrate his prediction! I broke out in laughter and pointed out that I used to do the same thing - when I was NINE years old! The usual defenders of this histrionic narcissist were visibly embarrassed.
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
There used to be agencies that protected the mentally ill from abuse and exploitation.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
The old Rove playbook....accuse the opposition of what you yourself are doing.
It can't be much longer before even some of the delusional 20% deadenders start to see the GOP liars for what they are.....
Conmen deceiving and shearing the sheep for their corporate masters.
snap people out of the trance induced by the Fox TV-Entertainment-Advertising Nexus at this point.
I think it's hopeless.
Don't have a cow man.
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Why does the Reslug party hate America sooo much that they obstruct and vote "NO" to everything????
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