It appears to be dawning on Glenn Beck -- what with yet another of his heavily armed fans now under arrest for casing out an Air National Guard base because she feared it was a FEMA concentration camp -- that some of the outrage he's so busily manufacturing on the air nightly might just boil over into violence again.
Yesterday on his Fox News show, he reviewed the tape coming in from the hooligans taking over the town-hall forums meant to discuss health care, disrupting them with tactics specifically intended to destroy any meaningful discussion, and was obviously pleased at the handiwork of his fellow tea-baggers. Indeed, it's unmistakable to everyone (even Beck, evidently) that there's an increasingly ugly undertone that forebodes violence. And if that happens, well, some of the blame might fall in his direction if it does.
So he took out a little insurance yesterday, imploring his increasingly angry audience not to resort to violence if they don't get their way politically:
Beck: The best thing that you can do right now is to let Congress know that you are watching them like a hawk. You show up. You let them feel your burning gaze on them at all times.
But here's the thing that I -- I'm concerned about: Your interaction with them needs to be respectful, polite, forceful, and peaceful.
I've been warning Congress now for a couple of years, and the time has come and passed for them to be able to learn from this. I've been telling them, you have to listen to the people, or they'll be in real big trouble.
Well now, let me give the warning to you: If anyone thinks that it would be a good idea to turn violent, think again. It would destroy the Republic. I feel it with everything in me. There is a great reason for hope right now. Because, I am telling you, for the first time -- since I started saying this in the last couple of years -- for the first time I know it, I feel it, the American people are starting to wake up.
These people in Washington have no idea what they have done. They have wakened a sleeping giant. But just one lunatic like Timothy McVeigh could ruin everything that everyone has worked so hard for, because these people in Washington won't pass up the use of an emergency.
Look how the media ran with the abortion-doctor killing. They tried to pin that despicable act on Fox in general and specifically, Bill O'Reilly and me! The only thing either of us have ever said is there's no reason for that, ever.
Sorry, Glenn, but that isn't the only thing either of you have ever said. O'Reilly also happened to refer to Dr. Tiller as a "baby killer" nearly thirty times, and accused him of mass murder as well as running "an abortion mill" where he had "aborted 60,000 fetuses." He even mused aloud about someone taking him out.
Sure, you can add a disclaimer at the end telling people never to commit violence. But coming at the tail end of an endless litany of incendiary demonization, that's pretty weak tea as lame excuses go.
Likewise, there are the many incendiary things you've said just in recent weeks: calling President Obama a racist, a fascist, and a socialist; repeatedly telling your audience for three weeks running that you "couldn't debunk" the FEMA concentration-camp theories (followed by a single episode in which you did in fact debunk them); agreeing with your guest that the only hope for America is another major terrorist attack; and helping promote secession.
As we saw with the case of the Long Island Beckazoid freaked out about FEMA, saying these kinds of things -- things that not only create scapegoats but are demonstrably untrue, and indeed unhinged -- goes beyond entertainment. Rhetoric like this has a seriously unhinging effect on listeners who absorb it and believe it, because it's in fact several steps removed from reality.
But of course, Beck will never confront that reality now. Because when one of his acolytes acts out inevitably now, he can just point back to this episode and say, "See? I have always denounced violence!"
They don't come much more cynical than that.
"...for me, Glenn Beck."
me-oww!
Truer words have never been spoken (ok, a tad bit of hyperbole, there). Just like all wingers, it's all about THEM.
Glenn Beck = prominent MORMON, prominent hate monger, prominent racist . . . Mormon, hate monger, racist and a bit of a village idiot.
I can't figure whether the Mormonism feeds his hate, explains it, or subdues it. Maybe his magic underwear are too tight!?
Lord knows Becky and Fox Comedy Channel don't want to be held responsible for the lies and fear THEY have been spreading.
NOBODY 2012
No, your nightly rants against Obama and how we are losing "our Country" while there are old film clips of Nazi storm troopers marching just over your shoulder- and saying the president has a thing against white people and that he is racist- no you didnt have anything to do with the currunt situation and lack of civil discourse and potential violence.
I also just love how he tries to come across as if he actually thinks that this is grassroots organization! He clearly knows that these people are being organized by lobbyists and told where to go and how to act while they're there! What a f*****g LIAR!
This seems like O'Reilly and Beck's statements are like giving a gun to a mob ,,, then giving them ammunition and reasons to use it..
Now wants to says this was / is not his intent..
None
Nuts with guns and a well fed grievance do.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
..just don't give me that warm, fuzzy feeling.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Guns don't kill people. Batshit crazy gun owners do.
Beck CANNOT claim that he was the voice of reason for these shitheads, long after he engaged in incendiary rhetoric which incited them in the first place.
It is like bringing water to put out a fire which someone started, after he gave them the matches and the gasoline. He will still be partly responsible for what happened next.
For the past few days, I have been sending Beck emails (and cc'ing O'Reilly) regarding these townhall outbursts. Yesterday, I did see Beck lauding these people in the video above....and I once again sent him an email about his support of these actions.
I've chastised him for encouraging these things; I've told him these are brownshirts interrupting these townhall meetings. I got so fed up with him this past week (especially with his Obama is a racist comment) that I called him a nazi....quite unusual for me to do this, but I am just so fed up with him.
add following to each investigation:
- Glenn Beck material found at home or computer?
- Birther material found at home or computer?
- Don't tread on me flags found?
- Survivalist stock piles?
- Shotgun, pistol or semi-automatics?
Non of these are illegal.
- Glenn Beck material found at home or computer? = I personally don't like Glenn Beck. he's a liar and a back stabber. Waist of hard drive space.
- Birther material found at home or computer? 1st Amendment. Not sure if this issue has legs but hey, show us the original and lets move on.
- Don't tread on me flags found? = The Gadsden Flag, that's American as apple pie.
- Survivalist stock piles? = Nothing wrong with that. Don't be SOL if the SHTF
- Shotgun, pistol or semi-automatics? = 2nd Amendend to the U.S. constitution. Inalienable rights. Cops don't have an obligation to protect you from crime. They are they to respond after a crime has already been committed and to bring suspects to the city attorney/ county prosecutor to bring charges.
It's the cause and effect thing. No, it's not illegal until it drives marginally thinking people to the unthinkable.
Which is his purpose...whether he is saying no or not.
Cause and effect.
Holocaust shooter was a fringe birther fan...
when watching Mr. Beck with O'reilly about a month ago when the right was whining and crying false outrage of having the right extremists tagged in the DHS study, Beck conveniently forgot to mention the old looney was a Birther.
PointOutsome,
yes, I agree with you that all are legal until the "line is crossed" as MsJoanne helped with.
I am placing bets that the next right wing extremist crime committed on an innocent person involving bodily harm will have at least one of my checklist items in their file when all is said and done.
thank you both for helping me with my point.
I do not post on a regular basis but Beck's activism and Fox media continuing to condone false outrage/ revolution/ physical obstruction, etc. is getting past the point of tabloid trash and into dangerous incitement.
All points actually.
Non of these are illegal.
In and of themselves.
Oh...don't forget your "e"...like in empathy, elections, equality...all topics you should familiarize yourself with.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
You activist, you! ;-)
George Sodini, PA Gym Shooter on line blog shows he was raised on fire and brimstone, doesn't like the "liberal" media nor Black presidents. Sadly a loner out of touch with reality.
My prayers go out to his victims and their families.
SOURCE:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=8255530&page=1
http://georgesodini.com/20090804
...the great oracle.
There are crazy people on the left and right says Beck, the biggest effing CLOWN on the planet. Beck is nothing if not batshit crazy.
Be respectful and polite counsels Beck, the guy who is anything but respectful and polite. Clearly people can't use Beck as a model for appropriate behavior.
..bor, rush, anne and others of similar ilk!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
... it's too late. You wound up your little fascist buddies and they're coming out of the woodwork in droves.
It's like the old saying: "Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend."
Or you can't unring a bell.
You can't un-stink a turd.....
I just watched that video again....Beck said it's all "grassroots," it's "all community organized...."
My ass. And is he now supporting "community organizers?"
is a little "hitler" in sheeps clothing. He would just love it if this thing got out of hand.
These people are committing treason, and no one is doin anything about it.
and Cheney...and Yoo...and Addington...and...[insert endless list of criminals here]?
I get the feeling Beck was the ugly, scrawny kid that got picked on and beat up a lot in school and now he's exacting his revenge.
..is the fact that W and his war crime family were not indicted for war crimes. "Hey, look at what they got away with." so the tea-baggers, wing-nuts, birthers, deathers, GOP congressmen & women, town hall thugs, think they are above the law also. Beck is stirring the pot that W, the crime family and the GOP created. He should be fired for calling the President a racist.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
I get the feeling Beck was the encephalitic kid in the Sears Toughskin husky pants. Wearin the crash helmet, lurching around, hands in the pants at inappropriate moments. Every day ended in wet pants.
long ago.
We are close to a police state with police being given free rein to tase us or enter our homes at will.
We torture at will, with no ramifications.
The government outted a CIA operative who was tasked with limiting nuclear proliferation in the middle east.
Rush dicked around with the voting process (Operation Chaos) with no recriminations.
Clinton got impeached for a consensual blow job.
We stopped being America when the GOP went totally rogue and started working with great effort to shut down government.
add to your comments, "The takeover of the MSM" and we have a full package.
add to your comments, "The takeover of the MSM" and we have a full package.
A little "hitler"?
Puleeease...he's another loudmouth bully who loves to egg on a fight, but when he's challenged pisses himself and runs homes crying..."it's not my fault, it's not my fault".
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
He hasn't been warning Congress all this time to listen to the voters,
It wasn't until 2007 that the Democrats took over control
And he won't say beux to repubs.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
..that train has already left the station.
You and your fascist friends made their beds, Beck. Now go lie in them..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaRxbqMuuN4
Wow, I think I need to smoke a cigarette.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Glenn Beck is a worthless CIA CointelPro back stabber. His goal is to co-op these angry grass roots movements and to steer them to the republican party for 2010 2012.
These movements are not to remove democrats from control and put republicans in control. It appears that many of these people think that Obama is a puppet. They believe that Obama was put in to win over the peoples hearts so that certain agendas can role on through and that the people would blame him 1,2,3, years from now when things fail and that the country will swing far to the right.
PEOPLE! It is our job to make sure these grass roots people stay resonable and in the middle. If they are co-opted and steered to the Republicans they will be a force that you will not be able to deal with. The cycle of Republcan, Democrat, republican, democrat will continue.
A) These 'teabaggers' and 'birthers' are not 'grass roots' movements of any sort.
B) Co-opted by the Republicans? Newsflash! They ARE the Republicans. And seriously? They can have 'em all, from Sam the Not-A-Real-Plumber to Orly Taitz.
C) Who is this 'you' you speak of? Why is it not 'we,' unless 'you' are counting yourself as separate from 'us'?
D) You want ignorant racist hate-mongers to 'stay reasonable' and 'in the middle' so they can percolate for a few more decades and show up on the doorstep of your children and grandchildren? Fuck that noise.
Textbook style...that is all that guy is. Ignore him Shadowgm. Read his other comments. He's nothing but a concern troll.
The tea party movement started from 9/11 truth groups, We are change groups and Ron Paul Groups. Thes groups were political atheist, bi-partisian, ect. They are Anti Bush Anti Federal Reserve, and wanted real investigations and criminals brought to justice.
Since the republicans lost and Obama and the dems won, the only group that survived were these grass roots groups. These poeple flocked to Ron Paul as a symbol and focal point. It was and is an idea.
The republicans are trying to steer and take over the movement. Many people who are republicans are flocking to these groups because it appears to be anti-Democrat, and anti Obama. The heart of the groups do not care what party is in. They see past the parties and want real change. They what Bush criminals brought to justice and if Democrats were involved in criminality send them to prison as well. The agenda is still going on with us still being in Iraq, still in Afganistan, the bankers still robbing us of our money. The bail out not working, The stimulus not working. People are starting to see past the two party system. Also registered Democrats are at these events. The media is politicizing this and lying.
Democrats and Republicans are getting booed off the stages!!!
You can't expect 500,000 plus people to get fired each month, since last year, not to be pissed off at the system.
I work in broadcast news. "The media is lying," is no different from anyone else pushing the 'mainstream media' codswallop, from Rush Limbaugh on down.
And if you - having self-identified with these 'grass roots' groups - are about accountability, then where is this 'the Republicans are gonna take over' nonsense coming from? Really? From Mr. I-stand-for-the-truth to Oh-God-The-Republicans-Are-In-My-Brainnnnnnnnn! in under two posts?
Absolutelyfrickinamazin.
hee hee, right
try astro-turf
did you drop the fax the GOP sent you? At least try and put your canned talking points in order.
Didn't they number the pages for yo...oh...sorry...never mind.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
I have said a bit about it here.
Do not be surprised if some new, moronic, knuckle-dragging retard like Scott Roeder shows up to do the dirty work...
..in the form of a 53 year old woman from Quoque, NY.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
She was in no position to do any damage.
She had one full clip.
I think she may have believed that becks assertions about the FEMA camps.
BUt I don't think she was intending to go on a shooting spree...had she intended that, she would have had multiple loaded clips, and those speed-loader tubes for the shotgun.
I used to have one...and they're pretty damn cool actually.
Your hate has already killed. You think they're going to stop now after seeing your results?
is intended to be a factual statement
When's he going to start crying and yelling like a little girl again?
When's he going to start crying and yelling like a little girl again?
About 3 hours after his feeding.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
This is plainly "Inquisition-lite"
Watch how good they feel when the true public option passes...
The Sotomayor confirmation is gonna spark some disillusioned hanky-panky as well... just you wait and see.
Amended:[The Sotomayor confirmation is gonna spark some disillusioned hanky-panky as well] I should have included... (even more-so, then it allready has) :-/
Study the symptoms not the virus...
John Stewart: It's like his brain is playing ping pong with itsself.
That plea should be enough to convict Beck for any and all violence. He has as much as admitted that he knows his rhetoric could indeed incite violence. That should be enough to convict him on inciting a riot.
Problem here is that there's no riot to convict him of inciting.
"Well now, let me give the warning to you: If anyone thinks that it would be a good idea to turn violent, think again. It would destroy the Republic."
Given Beck's comments and attitude towards session, shouldn't this be considered a form of goading?
..Beck should just STFU.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tAUDiS4rak
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I said from the beginning that Obama was gonna be a windfall to the Murdoch machine.
There's real money to be had from the several million morons who inhale Beck's shit like manna...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-FXNtc0N7M and the leadership of the republican and conservative movement are still at it. Its very dangerous.
When Beck says, "It would destroy the Republic" you can bet he would love nothing more than for some group or individual to go over the edge and declare 'war' against the USA. He is simply playing to the secessionist retards that make up a large part of his oddients!
P.S. Credit FZ for Oddients!
but I doubt anything will happen.
If the calls for no violence are really a call for action.
The RWNJ's are so bass ackward . . .
*shiver*
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
literally written, if not interpreted, constitution, I'll be damned if I do it being led by a crying Ninny in a beige suit and lime green dress shirt.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
if violence is visited upon our president or anyone else of importance. that is, the demise of himself and his kind.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pdgiel8ykg&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I love the tubes you post
Thanks
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
fucking loser
have to move away from their traditional: Do as I say, not as I do. To the new and improved: Don't do as I say, nor as I do.
Basically, I believe that Mr. Beck is too much of a dumbf*ck to realize he basically just said "I have no f*cking clue what I am talking about, so don't listen to me... I am just talking sh*t."
Oh, well... sad part is that this idiot is actually taking seriously by plenty of loons in this country. Devolution at its finest. yay!
Well, despite his rhetoric of evil, Beck has here given right-wing support to Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine:
"because these people in Washington won't pass up the use of an emergency."
I want to thank him there for his clear thinking.... Now if only he could apply it retroactively to GWB.
The Shock Doctrine's been working like clockwork for 100 years.
..if on his death bed, Glenn Beck will realize just how monumentally wrong his life has been? I also wonder about most of the right wing bullshitters.
Any form of regret/repentance requires two things: the ability for self-examination (and I'm not talking the weepy-willy shit Beck pulls on a regular basis) and honesty of some form - intellectual honesty, moral honesty, something.
I wonder if there's room for a 'What if Jesus Had Been More Like Glenn Beck?' parody ...
if on his death bed, Glenn Beck will realize just how monumentally wrong his life has been?
Naah..not if it's a natural death.
However, if he suffers some incurable illness and is staring into the eyes of the Grim Reaper....that's another story.
Wasn't there a famous spinmeister who when faced with such a situation suddenly became "born again".
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiWMwm_yOsw
?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IvPIWzQcUY
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
who died of brain cancer, in his death bed he did come to terms with the trail of hubris and shit he had left behind. He did not become "born again" although he was one of the brains (pun intended) behind the whole southern strategy of the republican revival in the late 70s/80s.
His remorseful remarks in which he disowned his actions and ideology as being pretty much "morally bankrupt" were quickly erased from record and squashed by the very same GOP machinery he had helped build. Ironic in a way...
Once these assholes come to terms with their own mortality, it is interesting to see them crumble. Alas, their request for forgiveness and disowning of their ideology comes always too late to serve as any sort of contrition or to help lessen their responsibilities.
Seems once it happens to them, they realize how wrong they have been in the past.
I find it amazing that Nancy Reagan now supports stem cell research because Ron had Alzheimers. I find it amazing that even Dick Cheney seems to support gay and lesbian issues...with one of his daughters being a lesbian. These are not typical conservative Repuglican view points.
It's OK for me but not for thee.
It's all wrong until they need it (or want it) at which point it becomes ok.
Typical gooper mentality.
It's all about who dies with the biggest bank account.
I don't think any of them have any real principles other than making lots and lots of money.
a lot to answer for if one of their followers goes on a shooting spree.
Nancy Genovese happens to be a regular caller to the Sean Hannity and Mark Levin shows. When I heard her name, I remembered her clearly during a call in to both shows. She is a follower in the extreme of both shows. She also shows up at their book signings. Listening to her speak on the radio, you know immediately that she is an extreme kool-aid consumer who will, at the moment she interprets one of these guys calling the loyal to arms, will be on the front lines locked and loaded.
This will happen sooner rather than later and Levin, Hannity, Beck et al will disavow violence while simultaneously egging the faithful on.
The one's we've seen commit murder so far are just the beginning.
Expect more acts of terror by these assholes.
Seems as if something has happened to the FreedomsWatch.org site. It doesn't exist, at least for me.
Maybe they are just overloaded, but it doesn't seem to even exist if you Google it....doesn't show up in the listings.
leave the 's' out.....
Actually, I did try that....but that appears to be a UK site. I was using Freedomswatch.org this morning. Freedomwatch actually has a statement on their web site that states they are not affiliated at all with freedomswatch.org.
The Freedomswatch.org site is the site Rachel Maddow mentioned...sent them several comments this morning which at first were displayed but which later were deleted, along with all other dissenting comments that I had seen posted. It's an organization run by Dick Armey.
I wonder if Beck ever got beat up when he was a kid.
Bet on it.
that tradition resume.
but this time, with feeling!
What does this say about the illiterate, Right Wing-nut, terrorists that listen to a bedwetting, crybaby, Dickhead???
Has Mr. Beck paused long enough to consider: he, himself, doing what he does, may just be that "one lunatic"?
Save the nation, Mr. Beck. Retire. Get out of the public eye.
Who can listen to a guy who wears a lime-green dress shirt and blue tie?
I've seen better color combos in airline puke bags.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
And, oh, yes, when it happens, it's not going to be the end of the republic, but we'll try very hard to see to it that it's the end of YOU, Mr. Beck.
please please please...somebody do something awful! make me look sane!
One thing I always want to ask these people who rant about the "loonies on both sides." Where are the violent loonies on the left? God knows we have our share of run-of-the-mill loonies, but when was the last time a crazed leftie gunned a man down in his church? When did a crazed leftie last gun down a doctor for providing legal medical services? When did a crazed leftie last drive an explosive truck into a government building? When did a crazed leftie last get up at a political rally and demand the candidate be assassinated?
The Code Pinkers. They take their mission to disrupt very seriously, but do it with cross-dressers, tinsel and tiaras. It's a little too. uh, festive for me.
But you're right, firearms don't enter into the equation.
The question was:
Festive or not, Code Pink isn't calling for the assassination of anyone.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
got me there. I wasn't offering them as any sort of justification, but your run-o-the-mill infantile wingtroll likes to toss them out as some sort of chastening exhibit A, and these town hall disruption playbooks ride that pretty heavily.
But, but, but....I think Boss Limpballs said that that guy who shot and killed the Holocaust Museum guard was a leftie. Wasn't he?
probably feeling a little guilty about the anger being voiced by all his followers. Nah-bet he doesn't feel guilty at all. Beck is just trying to cover his ass so people/media can't say he was egging them on when some right wing nutjob shoots up someone or some place.
This guy is a sociopath. A narcissist.
I can't stand to even watch this guy anymore. I used to watch-just to see what malarkey he would say next. I can't anymore. He makes me sick.
such a nice word for the copious effluence of elephant dung spouting from Glenn's malodorous pudding hole.
I'm serious here. This 4th rate broadcasting network may have millions of dollars, but MONEY does not make a responsible broadcasting network. I find Fox to be every bit as much a threat to our national security as any terrorist... perhaps more so because they are INSIDE.
Beck doesn't feel remotely close to guilty or regretful of his role in amplifying right-wing extremism. He's being absolutely disingenuous.
Beck knows full well that, by making a point of urging his viewers to remain calm and not do anything violent, he's sending a not very oblique message to the objects of his viewers' wrath: don't piss off the people who watch my show, because some of them are crazy and just might do something terrible; I can't control them; they're like wild animals; maybe you should just try harder not to anger them; somebody could get hurt, and then it'd be civil war, riots in every city and town, the end of the republic, you know. wink wink nod nod say no more.
How can we continue to fan the flames with Beck? Like, maybe *shudder* agree with him so he continues to talk about this crap.
Who is Glenn "Obama hates white people or white culture" Beck calling a lunatic?
according to him he has no influence over his listeners? He's wasting his breath! unless he knows some shit is about to happen and he's washing his hands of it before it happens...stupid conspiracy mind!!!
Late,
QSE32
Fox will show after the event to prove that Beck isn't culpable.
glenny wants his militia to be "respectful" and "polite"... after calling president obama a racist? why the change of heart all of a sudden, glenny? did you figure out that youre too much of a lunatic finally?
A soccer mom pulls over to the side of the road to take a picture of the display chopper sitting on the county road. She never gets out of the car. And look at what happens, tres 3 charge on a county road dismissed. Why do you people believe everything you read from our media? Why don't reporters do fact checking anymore?
Life is good!
Nancy
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