Bill O'Reilly says he knew the left would blame him; uses biased panel to smear Dr. Tiller
Bill O'Reilly led off his show by trying to denounce left wingers like all of us for blaming him for Dr. Tiller's death. He says he knew he would be the target because we hate him and FOX. How did you know we would call you out on Dr. Tiller? Maybe because of all your whacked out rants against him? What he said was true and that's that. He read off statistics from the Moonie Times and had on two Kansas law dudes (Khris Kobach, a law professor at Missouri and Brian Russell, teacher at Kansas) to help defend his cause. Usually, Bill has on an opposing--if somewhat ineffectual--view in his panel, but not this time. He couldn't risk his older audience getting hit with any of the truths surrounding BillO's outrageous behavior towards Dr. Tiller. He called him "The Baby Killer," again, the term he said originated with pro-life groups, but it's a name he used frequently against Dr. Tiller.
O'Reilly: When I heard about Tiller's murder, I knew pro-abortion zealots and FOX News haters would attempt to blame us for the crime and that is exactly what happened.
Later, Brian Russell disagreed with President Obama and said this:
Russell: Ideologically-driven killers rarely are influenced by anything other than their ideology. Obama got this wrong a few days ago when said that people become terrorists because they hear what's going on with Gitmo. No, they don't. They become terrorists because of ideology and just like this guy (Tiller's killer) almost certainly and exclusively because of ideology shot Tiller. These people who are saying that this drivel to you are as far off on their side of the issue as this shooter is on his.
Professor Russell thinks that since we point out O'Reilly's vitriol we're as bad as a freaking murderer. I called Russell on the phone and we had a heated exchange. I identified myself as a liberal blogger and he said he had to go in 5 minutes. I'll blog more about this later, but I told him that I was troubled by his last statement. A man who kills somebody does not have the equivalent ideology that I do on the left. That's insane. He tried to say that Bill O'Reilly had no influence on the killer and actually he took it a step further and said that no killer could ever be influenced by what he heard. I brought up the case of Jim David Adkisson and told him that Adkisson purchased Bernard Goldberg's book and listened to Bill O'Reilly and that was proof that these right wingers do influence people. He didn't believe me. I told him that I wanted BillO and his kind to take some responsibility for what they say and he disagreed. He kept saying he was an expert and I kept saying that his expertise didn't make him correct. He wouldn't admit that his last statement was meant as a blanket to cover Bill O'Reilly's vitriolic behavior with a defense and to also smear us by the hoisting on the values of a killer.
BillO targeted Kos and Huffington as usual. Hate is hate, Bill, and what we've argued for is not a silencing of your views, but to take ownership and responsibility for the hateful rhetoric that you and your right wing extremist buddies use that trigger violence in America against people with whom you disagree.
Later on, Bill's chief FOX News apologist, Juan Williams, came on to lick his boots and defend him even though he's pro-choice. Juan said he knew the left would use it against him and said that Bill O'Reilly never, never called for violence towards Dr. Tiller.
Here's Bill on the radio wishing he could kill Dr. Tiller.
OK. So, I'm the fascist, I'm the bad guy, I'm the problem. Not Tiller. No, he -- no, no, no. He's a good guy. Now, Tiller's pumping all kinds of money into obviously the attorney general race. He wants the guy that's gonna let him off the hook to win. Those of you listening in Kansas, you ought to know that. You know, I don't -- I'm not gonna tell you who to vote for. You guys know these guys better than I do, but I tell you what, anything Tiller wants, I'm voting the other way. And if I could get my hands on Tiller -- well, you know. Can't be vigilantes. Can't do that. It's just a figure of speech.
O'Liely is in denial, that his minions don't do his bidding for him while he sits in his air conditioned studio giving orders? It's code you know. wink wink.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Murdoch and Ailes who clearly share the responsibility here. Has the professor been retained by O'Reilly? Sounds like it. Money talks, integrity walks.
white supremacist groups have been successfully sued in our courts when they were held responsible for fostering and fomenting hate resulting in death. why not Bill??
maybe they think he's too big to fail...
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Bill really thinks he is more of a victim than Tiller who was shot to death. O'Reilly is a sociopath. Pure and simple.
in every issue, there is a "good guy" and a "bad guy" and of course the guy who disagrees with righteous me is the "bad guy". All "bad guys" who disagree with billo are "evil" and must be destroyed.
That's Pro life!!!
Think George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Condoleeza Rice, Donald Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Thomas Franks and all of the architects of the most blatant mass murder since the Third Reich.
Pro life? Fuck them and their dominionist automatons. I don't want them dead. I want them in CAGES!!
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
Then no problem with the rap music right? /s
I mean, these guys are in the influence business. They are all about influence and persuasion. Otherwise they've have nothing to live for. And otherwise, JD Salinger has taken a few too many bad raps for Catcher in the Rye.
I hate to say this but I fear that this is only the first of many such murders from the lunatics on the right.
And if it's not an outright conspiracy then it's a conspiracy of mindset.
The Murder of Dr. Tiller, a Foreshadowing
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
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Protest!
America should beware. When Clinton took office, "pro-life" terrorists bombed, maimed and murdered. Under Bush, one bombing. Six months under President Barack Obama, a church killing and a doctor's murder. The militia movement that is the right wing are armed to to teeth, rabid and pissed off that their new boss is black. Duck & cover, people. With mouthpieces like Savage, Billo and Beck, a whole lot of hell is coming.
If I was a doctor involved in women's health I'd be applying for a CCL right now and buying a .357 magnum.
I have yet to hear anyone in Wichita, or Kansas, who put the blame on O'Reilly. I don't blame O'Reilly, I just think he's an ass.
billo should know that the left does not
have to smear him....he does that himself.
what do you think, billo, after years of throwing
at the fan turned towards you, the crap you throw
with your own right hand won't land in your face?
tasty? then STFU asshole.
Without it, 19 years later, there are more potential female Fox employees for him to falafel.
if you are a cable subscriber, write your cable provider and tell them you want them to start offering a basic cable bundle that does not include fox news.
Fox-free cable! Up the Revolution!
There's no conviction with Bill O'Reilly. It's all about ratings and that's it. He's gotta keep his audience at the cost of good man and at the cost of a profound tragedy in a church, a place of peace. Ask Bill O'Reilly to give an educated view on the subject and you won't get one. It's tragic. He's a one man clown factory with too much audience and too much influence.
Jeanne
You used "Bill O'Reilly" and "educated" in the same sentence. Good one. Best joke all night!
O'Liely and the blood stained right get to have it both ways.
much less than Tiller, but if you met your end in the same way, we'd have a party for you.
Unfortunately, the collapse of the void between your ears, like a black hole, would suck somebody new in to be a parrot for the ideals of the richest white people around.
"And if I could get my hands on Tiller -- well, you know. Can't be vigilantes. Can't do that. It's just a figure of speech."
Bill, you just sanctioned this guy's murder. You said, in no less words, that it would be a justified vigilante act to kill him. And you'd do it, if you could. Well, someone else did.
The irony is, Bill was only using abortion as an election prop, to advertise for Republicans. The FCC and the FEC ought to look into his comments.
tillerkiller?
all you need to know about Russell, taken from the site ratemyprofessors.com
This guy is so full of himself it's gross. You take quizzes, and at the end of them online you reply with whatever you want. He adds questions at the end just for fun, and one of his questions was whether or not he should wear glasses on T.V. Also, he tries to be cool by talking about quintons (he goes to wine night). LAME CLASS, but easy. http://ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?t...
Perhaps he should next ask his class if he should smile as he kisses O'Reilly's ass on television. He's a business professor, that does not make him an expert on anything else and not even necessarily on business.
it got deleted as I was transcribing...:-)
There were other rather funny quotes regarding him, but mostly he was pegged as egotistical and self-centered (as you probably saw).
I myself possess two undergrad degrees, one, a B.A. in journalism (
Walter Cronkite School @ASU) and the other a B.S.N - I could probably teach a more enlightening and succinct intro psych class and will happily offer myself up as an expert general psychology if he's an example of what qualifies as an expert.
For gods sake Loofah Boy you can stop smearing him now.....He's Dead!
He'll probably send his goofy camera crew after Dr. Tiller. O'Reilly is such a pussy. On a bright note, his audience is so old they will soon be leaving this plane and those that are left may develop dementia, if they have not already. It must be tedious to be old, angry, bitter and unhappy.
send a camera crew to the grave...shouting questions
"DR TILLER, WHY ARE YOU AFRAID TO COME ON THE FACTOR"
i am sooooo sick
At Dr. Tiller funeral, I wouldn't put it past Billy to send his brownshirts to harass the mourners. I doubt those pussy-ass terrorist sympathizers would want to start trouble when someone with a gun, who isn't on their side, is around.
Takes O'Reilly to task.
Thanks, Mr. Schaeffer.
Rachel Maddow guest, former Right-To-Lifer Frank Schaeffer blasts the extremists
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Can he defend his position while continuously denigrating Tiller's life and death? Has the man no sense of hypocrisy?
I in no way or form blame Tiller's death on O'Reilly, but I do blame his form of dialogue, which O'Reilly hocks day in and out. Is it O'Reilly's fault that he's a mindless moron? No I don't believe that...he was born that way.
Not only does he denigrate Tiller's life, he shows absolutely no remorse that Tiller is dead.
loofa boy doesnt care about victims of child abuse
if he did, he wouldve done at least one piece over the years on the sorry state of children's services in many red states...he has done none
the kansas ag didnt care about rape or child abuse, he just wanted his hands on confidential med files to "prove" that tiller was performing illegal abortions
loofa boy is an evil fuck
O'Reillley is not alone in this. Every one of the right wing blowhards on the radio who have the ear of the heartland is complicit. personally, the abortion issue is a difficult one for me. as a counselor many years ago it was brought to light for me. a young girl came to me stating that she was pregnant, and the family traipsed in after. i had known the family for many years prior and they liked me and respected my judgment. The family all gathered in my office and really put it in my hands. abortion as the girl wished or not as the family would have it. there it was, and here i was, a young liberally thinking young man bred and raised in the radical 60's. What would i say,l the baby might stain the life of the young girl hurting her chances not only for college but possibly no high school graduation, or go for abortion.
when i was actually faced with the decision, i opted for life, I blurted out with tears in my eyes let the baby live.
that decision i guess was somewhat vindicated when the gir
interviewed Dr.Warren Hern, a colleague and friend of Dr. Tiller.
I missed some of the interview, but he called out "so called respectable mainstream journalists like WilliamSaletan, Ellen Goodman, and Chris Matthews" for using the same hateful language on abortion as anti abortion terrorists. He did not mention FOX or O'Reilly, but may have earlier before I tuned in.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
when the girl walked into my office five years later with a five year old boy traipsing beside her. both beamed and the girl was just finishing college and my eyes filled with tears again. this is not to say, i've found the answer to the abortion issue. different circumstances may have rendered a different decision and outcome. This is not an easy decision, just as the immigration issue is not as easy as building a fence or sending twelve million people back to their homes south of the border, nor is the issue of gay marriage. I am not gay, but i always support their cause. i would never take away the rights of another group for my own misplaced idealisms.
so O'Reilley, you lying sack of shit, rot in hell along with your cohorts.
did you? It's still Bill-O for goodness sakes. He knows that any kind of serious introspection of his journalistic integrity is a journey he wants no part of. Makes it easier to cash the checks.
The Reich-wingers always love to talk about how the liberals embrace "victimization," but all I hear lately (and not just from BO)is how the neoCons are being abused by 75% of the country they used to think they owned as recently as 2006.
These people confuse bullying, bombastic Bible thumping with true faith, but when a light suddenly is shone on their own Pharisaical leanings, there's a whole lotta persecutin' goin' on. As you sow, hypocrites, so shall you reap.
..no one wants to silence Billo for his incendiary remarks.
I'm afraid I have to disagree...he should not only be silenced, he should be dragged before a court of law and sentenced to life in prison...in solitary confinement w/out access to any writing materials whatsoever.
Work with his name on it does not count.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
..like every other reporter in the world today, he keeps a blog; how else is he going to spew his guts every day of the week?
Talk about begging the question! And how does one arrive at a particular ideology, Professor Russell, if not through being influenced by one's environment: parents, teachers, peers, co-workers, and, yes, even talk-show hosts?
shaped by misguided professors in their home state, experts might say.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
From an appearance on The O'Reilly Factor two years ago:
See also his page on RateMyProfessors.com.
These guys are going to be putting both feet in their mouths, trying to dance around how they're pro-life but don't mind that this particular life was lost.
The day is coming when somebody out there rams O'Reilly's favorite dildo about three feet farther up his ass than even he rams it.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" - General Jack D. Ripper
Billo is such a Pig and a Lier!. He ranted..He raged bout Tiller. He came up with the "Tiller the Baby Killer" name.
He knew it was only a matter of time when someone was gonna kill tiller.
I sent BillO an email tonight outlining why he is wrong. First, he claimed that he did not rant against Tiller....I'd really like to know what his definition of "rant" is.
Secondly, in his show tonight, he pointed out that Tiller destroyed some 60,000 fetuses....he said this at least twice, but I think it was three times. It was almost as if he was defending the murder of Tiller. What difference does it make how many fetuses were aborted? The fact is, the doctor was murdered.
Bill also claimed that there is irrefutable evidence that it can be detected before 21 weeks if a baby will be in serious jeopardy of dying in childbirth or not be able to live a viable life. I've heard just the opposite today from other sources. BillO further just does not know why most of these fetuses were aborted....aren't medical records supposed to be sealed, kept secret from the general public?
I also pointed out that that "expert" who claimed that ideology drove the killing may be an "expert," but there are likely other "experts" who would say the opposite. I'm no expert, but tell me....what creates and drives an ideology? Sure, religion does, but it is also fueled by hateful speech that comes out of the mouths of the likes of Bill O'Reilly.
Lastly, while many here would disagree with me, I kind of was in agreement with Obama withholding the latest torture pictures....primarily because I did see the head of the ACLU say that he would agree with witholding those pictures, if an independent judge could look at them and decide whether or not people should be prosecuted for the torture.
Having said that, if BillO and that clown guest of his think that only "ideology" drives killers like this, then why wouldn't that be the same for Al Qaeda killers? In other words, if Bill believes his own words, then showing torture pictures should not inflame these killers at all because, according to Bill's guest, these killers only do so because of their ideology.
It was so obvious tonight that Bill was protecting himself more than he was damning Tiller's murderer.
Good. More people should take the time to email the scumbags that incite hatred.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I get horror chills everytime I hear one of Bill O'Reilly's sick & twisted rants. This creep is too dangerous to society to have such a high profile platform on tv. This man who is a sexual harasser, a vile name caller and personal attacker and stalker who sends his hyenas to harass people in their own private space, all because they disagree with him. In my opinion, this man has deep seated personal issues that go far beyond his obvious perverse behavior. He cannot control his rage; it shows all over his face and body language, madness in his eyes. There is no place in American tv or radio broadcasts for raving lunatics like Bill O'reilly. I can't help but believe he'll get his...what goes 'round comes 'round.
Woody McBreairty
...thinks that the fact that only 3 doctors perform late term abortions in the US is somehow proof that the service is unnecessary and wrong. The wording of his own TPM admitted (knowingly or not) that late term abortions are necessary, if only rarely. Therefore, if they are necessary, then it doesn't matter if three doctors or three thousand are performing them. Needless to say, it would be a lot better if anyone who needed a late term abortion could obtain one within her own state, instead of having to travel to one of the three (now two?) clinics that provide the service.
Billo and Goldberg's constant rants and provocations hold absolutely no power to incite people to action, but if anyone dares to disagree with them, their freedom of speech is shut down because so many people are susceptible to influence. Got it.
You gotta hand it to Billo on this one. He is proud of the fact that he is a psychopath.
Being a wingnut means you are always wrong, and that you can never deviate from your deviance.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Bill is still justifying the murder of Tiller.
Bill is a disgusting individual.
Bill we stand for the rule of law and order and you call us far left?
Oh the irony.
It is silly and ridiculous to assign blame or responsibility to Bill O'Reilly for the death of Tiller. Billo condemned Tiller's activites but at no time did he advocate killing the abortion doctor. Blaming Billo for that man's death would be like blaming Keith Olbermann if somebody shot George Bush.
There is a line when free speech becomes hate speech. When he (or Savage/Weiner or Limbaugh or Beck) is inciting violence. You can't hold rallies and call someone a terrorist and a fascist and start selling them fear without expecting someone to shoot somebody. Radio Rwanda was culpable, and O'Reilly is walking that line (although I think Savage/Weiner is worse.)
You don't think Billo would be blaming Olberman if someone shot Bush?
Russell: These people who are saying that this drivel to you are as far off on their side of the issue as this shooter is on his.
Yeah, don't you guys remember when Markos followed O'Reilly to church and shot him to death?
Did Bill O'Reilly just name the next target as William Ayers?
You're not the fascist, you're the terrorist sympathizer.
I'm the expert is never the right answer. The power of your argument (not your voice) should carry the day.
John - way to go. Way to stand up for your (our) beliefs!!
or is good at math, please check (√) my numbers?
At approximately 00:50 - Bill cites the "The Washington Times... founded by the direction of Unification Church founder Sun Myung Moon in 1982. estimates 60,000 abortions
"For over 35 - years" or (More then 12775 days / 365x35)
AP reports at least 250 "late term" in 2003 alone.
Lets be generous with the numbers... Lets say he took over the clinic on August 21, 1970, the day his parents, sister and brother-in-law were killed in an aircraft accident. 8/21/1970 - 5/31/2009 = 13,789 days**
60,000 abortions in 13,789 days = 4.35 per day, "every day" from 8/21/1970 until his assassination on 5/31/2009
**The afformentioned figures (Do Not) include leap year influences. :-/
Using the AP's calendar year 2003 numbers of 250 "late term". = 0.68 per day. (250 / 365 = 0.68 per day)"every day"
I'm not sure what days the courageous Doctor worked and what days he didn't... Though the numbers he is regurgitating smell funny too me.
I can understand a slight spin, but if my calculations are anywhere near correct... his reporting is just plain "liable"!
I have no idea how long the procedures takes, but if he simply did just 1 a day... to perform 60,000 would take 164.38 years, no? I must be doing something wrong? Could someone tell me (How many a day would have too be done to fit the numbers he states) I'm tired and and it's friggin late or early... 5am here and fatigue has set in... These liars just piss me off. "I'll be back" :-)
**The afformentioned figures (Do Not) include leap year influences. :-/
Study the symptoms not the virus...
BillBlow... your vile accomplice did not take out a government entity... He took a humans life "specifically"... so ya can just put that spin aside!!!
And your slimy legal weasel ass kissin guest is correct when he says it's ideology... The very same kind of ideology you nutbags are promoting throughout your segment you dumbphucks.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
We also know that a blowhard like O'Reilly, and others like him, will never take responsibility for their roles in fomenting hatred, intolerance, and violence. That would be like an alcoholic in denial taking responsibility for his drinking. But that okay if he refuses to see it, because any other reasonable person can.
I listened to all those groups including Bill O'Reilly pre-emptively defending themselves and all it says is guilty conciences that are still too juvenile to own up to their sins. Is they no way Dr. Tillers family can bring up a civil suit to bankrupt these entities as the "Southern poverty law center did to the KKK?
I remember reading that some radio talk show hosts in rwanda instigated the terrible genocide that occurred there. Word do have power. And we are responsible for the things we say. Research should be done re the rwanda radio hosts and the right wing american talk show hosts.
How very un-christian of Billo -- he's defending the murder of a man that occurred in a church no less!
Certainly the terrorist who did this should rot in hell but so should those who influenced him -- the next few days should be interesting as this terrorist will probably flap his yap once given the platform.
These cheap carnival barkers on the right side of politics have been stirring up the lesser intellectual amongst us for a long time now. And there Rush-esque cottage industry has grown and grown until now they have a full cable network (FOX). I'm appalled and my disgust has only grown in recent years as they seem to be doubling down and become more and more radical. Take Glenn Beck, for example, when he was on CNN I'd occasionally catch his show and think he was somewhat comical in a self-deprecating way, and he'd make a salient point or two, but you wouldn't take him anymore seriously than Howard Stern as even he seemed more focused on gags and spoofs, making quirky faces, herky-jerky body language, etc... Maybe I didn't watch him enough because nowadays when I seen Beck on FOX he seems on a mental bender of hate and lunacy, as if all of a sudden he takes himself seriously, deadly seriously. How opportunistic I've thought to myself as I noted his morphing. But not now, after Tiller's death I'm of the mind that there might be more dire ramifications to all their hate-mongering on FOX.
I voted for Bush. I'm sorry I did (as are most Americans). I then voted for Obama. If there is so much as a failed attempt on Obama's life I will be moved toward full censorship. I will hound my congress persons to put an end to their incessant hate-baiting. There are too many nuts in America that don't need FOX News or Rush Limbaugh to provide them cover. This is insane.
This is it for me and the Republicans. I'm done with them.
You wrote: "If there is so much as a failed attempt on Obama's life I will be moved toward full censorship."
There has been an attempt on Obama's life according to an article written in a Maine newspaper and not covered by the American mainstream press. According to a wikileak article, found at: http://wikileaks.org/wiki/The_%22dirty_bomb%2..., James G. Cummings who is known to be a white supremacist millionaire, attempted to make a dirty bomb he planned on using during Obama's inauguration. Also according to a Daily Kos article about violence, there has been an "unprecedented" amount of threats to Obama as an individual, see http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/3/8/9128/0... for more.
Censorship and/or prosecuting hate speech in America is the last thing I want to see. It's the proverbial slippery slope.
I have no problem having FOX News on my cable box just as I have no problem skipping over FOX News every time I channel surf.
But I'm almost willing to give up America's greatest freedom, the freedom of speech if these wingers keep it up. I'm just not quite there yet.
There seems to be an epidemic in this country with not taking accountability for ones actions. Making inflammatory statements or behaving in an indecent manner seems akin to shouting "fire" in a crowded theater. If one is to use logic espoused by Bill O. and others then maybe it should be okay to shout "fire" in a crowded theater because it's really the reaction of the others sitting in the theater that are to blame for anything bad that happens. It's those people sitting in the theater who react to someone else shouting "fire" which causes the stampede. After all it is those people who made the choice to get out of their chairs and it is those people who made a choice to run and not walk.
...at least in your own home. Your cable provider probably doesn't have a basic cable bundle that doesn't include Fox, but cable companies do NOT have to sell cable in bundles:
http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=7475
To say you want to harm someone is a figure of speech? What does it really mean, you want to lick someone's ass?
Bill, you're not a fascist. You're an idiot douchebag.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
He could be into analingualism.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnwyQFe3wRA
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Just as in the case of the Iraq War where it was proven in 2003 that those who listened to Fox News Channel were the most likely to mistakenly believe that Saddam Hussein and Iraq were involved in the 9/11 terrorist attacks (even Dick Cheney just now (2009) came out and admitted that Saddam and Iraq were not involved), so it will be with the Tiller Murder case where Fox News listeners will mistakenly believe O'Reilly above reproach and Tiller's murder justified. Fox creates disinformation as destructive as any the Soviet Union ever created.
thinks he's an "expert" on psychology? I'd say he's an expert on stupidity. Which begs the question 'what the heck are Kansas' requirements to join the bar'?
Tall enough to sit in the stool without needing help.
(Don't swivel!)
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Bill O'Reilly knows very well he incited the murder of Dr. Tiller. The give-away was in the words he AVOIDED using last night.
Last night he didn't use the words and phrases he has been using to incite that violence for at least 4 years; "He killed babies", "He executed babies", "He'll execute a baby for $5,000", if you stand by then, "it's OK with you that babies are killed" and that America turns into "Hitler's Germany, Mao's China and Stalin's Russia".
No, instead he only used legitimate terms last night like, "He terminated pregnancies", "He destroyed fetuses", "He performed late-term abortions".
Bill O'Reilly knows very well he is as implicated in the murder of Dr. Tiller as Charles Manson was implicated in the murder of Sharon Tate.
He's an attorney and a psychologist. Most media studies professors have a far different perspective. As I recall, while shows like O'Reilly's don't force people to kill, ratcheting up the rhetoric to that degree can make viewers more extreme, and can make those already predisposed to violence more likely to believe that doing so would be morally correct. The question is never the perspective that one takes, but how one makes one's argument. O'Reilly, Beck and their ilk, while maximizing viewers/listeners/readers by appealing to the basest instincts with clear propaganda, also maximize the chances for political differences to turn violent.
Bill-O has blood on his hands. He's no different than all the other right-wing talking heads and leaders whose rhetoric inflames a deranged individual enough to commit murder or terrorism.
Bill-O, however, won't be prosecuted because he makes too many people a lot of money and he pretends to be a "journalist."
If "liberals" are the problem, the Falafel O'Reilly should answer me one question:
How many republican offices, FAUX Noise buildings and fundamentalist christian churches have been bombed or shot at by "liberals"?
No doubt Falafel O'Reilly will say, "The churches in Mississippi!", the churches bombed by the Ku Klux Klowns in the 1960s.
O'Reilly keeps rewriting history on Malmedy, so why not here?
What Bill O'Reilley is clearly saying is that he is ok with speech inciting anti-Christian violence ....and he's ok with people saying that O'Reilley should be targeted, and that we shouldn't be surprised when someone takes a shot at him.
If Fred Goldman kills OJ is that terrorism? Hell no. I call that Justice.
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