In discussing Nancy Pelosi's leaked comment that she'd rather see President Tony Soprano imprisoned than impeached, John Heilemann went a wee bit off-topic, and off-color, and Nicolle Wallace was HERE for it. Heilemann really wanted to focus on the reasons Speaker Pelosi is in this impeach vs. imprison situation to begin with, and one of the big ones rhymes with Spawn Clannity. And sometimes only one word will do to describe what you want to say, so Heilemann went there and said it. And he said it again. Then so did Nicolle Wallace. Then Heilemann said it again. Then at the end of the show they had to say sorry, but *pssssst* hey, Nicolle and John, we know you're not, and it's okay.
WALLACE: You just turned this in a different direction. I'll put away what we were gonna talk about, and let's have this conversation. Because part of the reason --
HEILEMANN: I hope that's okay.
WALLACE: It's fine with me. You can talk to my producers later. Part of the reason Donald Trump won was because no one ever had a symmetrical debate with him. There is an asymmetry in this country, because the alternate reality is the reality in which Donald Trump thrives. It's where hand size matters, it's where not only do people think that Hillary Clinton committed crimes, which Jim Comey came out and said the opposite was true --
HEILEMANN: Helping Donald Trump win the election.
WALLACE: But it's a reality where spying occurred. So I guess the bottom line is, if this is a play and it's all bullshit, as you said, the play is in its second season and they recast the Attorney General, Sessions is out and Barr is in. It's getting more dire --
HEILEMANN: We have an Attorney General who has embraced the Fox News world of bullshit. That's what's happened and that's a hugely scary thing for the country.
No bullshit detected.