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Howard Dean Gives S.E. Cupp Taste Of Fact-Based Reality

The head-to-head matchup between S.E. Cupp and Howard Dean left clear winners and losers

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[h/t Heather]

Why S.E. Cupp is considered any sort of serious commentator worthy of Sunday shows is truly beyond me, but evidently the bookers at This Week with George Stephanopoulis thought an Art History major carries knowledge of health care issues with it.

Evidently her deep, careful study of health care and young people has led her to this conclusion:

There's two problems, one is the technological, sort of mechanics of this. Obamacare relies on Millennials, these young invincibles who have never bought health insurance in the past, to suddenly change their behavior and buy something they don't think they need. And in some cases can't afford. That mechanical issue remains to be seen and the web site rollout has affected that.

Gosh, I guess Cupp missed the 2012 campaign where people went nuts every time Obama mentioned letting them stay on their parents' policies until they're 26? Or story after story of how a young person couldn't qualify for health insurance because they were treated for acne when they were teens?

I could go on, but Governor Dean delivered the goods not only to Cupp, but also to George Stephanopoulis who ought to know better:

STEPHANOPOULOS: Wait a minute the White House just said that they have to have about 1/3 of the people 2.7 million of the 7 million people have to be young people.

CUPP: That's what it means.

DEAN: No. That's not true actually. Because the reason that is framed as being true is everybody assumes that you can't do community rating without an individual mandate, and that's not true. And I know that because I did it 20 years ago. We did most of the stuff that's in Obamacare--

STEPHANOPOULOS: In Vermont.

DEAN: In Vermont and we also have almost every child under 18 has had health insurance in our state for 20 years. And we've had community rating, really tough community rating where you couldn't charge more than 20% above your base rate to anybody in the country, in the state. And you couldn't discriminate anybody for pre-existing conditions. We've had this for 20 years.

Newsflash for GSteph and Cupp: The White House didn't say what you think they said, as Kaiser News explains:

One misconception about the 7 million number creeping into the conversation is that it is a target necessary to achieve a viable insurance pool with a good mix of healthier and sick people. The principle is right — the larger the number, the better the chances of spreading risk — but the CBO was calculating the number who might be covered in the first year to estimate federal spending, not to lay down a threshold for the program’s success.

In a larger context, this exchange highlights how vapid these shows have become. Bringing SE Cupp on to spew right wing talking points with absolutely ZERO knowledge of how these things work is evidence that they're less interested in clarifying controversial issues than they are about making more controversy.

Howard Dean was there this time, but what about the next time? I'd say there shouldn't BE a next time. Quit pandering to demographics, ABC, and start dealing with facts.

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