On Morning Joe, they showed a medley of Mike Pence's greatest denials.

"So, literally, every time he's interviewed on anything of substance and concerns, he knows absolutely nothing and it turns out that he says he knows absolutely nothing, but he doesn't know what's going on," Brzezinski said..

"So either he's clueless and he joined this administration and literally put in earplugs and put on blinders and is incapable of hearing anything."

"It is possible that they leave him out of the room when they're having the discussions," Scarborough said.

"Then why interview him? Like, he has no -- he has absolutely no credibility," Brzezinski said.

"It could well be that Vice President Pence is smart enough to leave the room without being asked."

They discussed whether Pence is actually staying away from the Russia talks -- probably with an eye to his own potential presidency.

"So his loyalty that he is showing or cluelessness is totally tromping over whatever love of country he has. so that's not going to help him in a campaign," Brzezinski said. "If he's choosing to have no clue, he does not care about this country and its future."

"Well, if you believe some strong rumors in the District of Columbia, you'd have to believe that Mike Pence does know a lot about what's going on and is smart enough to leave the room, so he does have plausible deniability, because he and more than a few of his people are always preparing, right now, for a Pence presidency," Mike Barnicle said.

Which would not be much of an improvement. And we do know Pence lied about not knowing Mike Flynn was a foreign agent. That, alone, should disqualify him.

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