Glenn and Jonah: Is this the most bizarre, incoherent talk-show segment ever?
By David Neiwert Friday Mar 06, 2009 9:45am
When this aired I promised myself I would go back and figure out what this was all about, because it made no sense at the time. But as I was reviewing this program I began to realize it still made no sense.
It's like we've entered a little Glenn/Jonah Decoder Ring Society where they speak in their own secret language, which evidently involves pictograms. See if you can make heads or tails of it. And hey, I've read and even semi-decoded Liberal Fascism, but I can't figure this one out.
It all begins with a leftover rant from Beck's attack the previous day on Sam Webb of Communist Party USA, at the end of which he blames our current economic mess on Woodrow Wilson and proclaims:
It's the policy of the big banks, and yes, I will agree with you, big business, that no longer look at people as anything other than consumers, with business that looks at countries only as markets. That's the problem sir, and that started with the progressives. Look it up. Do your history.
Ahem, well, for those of us who actually are students of history, the gross objectification of people as mere mass workers and marketing objects well precedes the arrival of progressives, and is much more accurately described as a product of the Industrial Age and capitalism.
In any event, we are shortly off and running with Jonah, but midway along we veer into Glenn doing drawings on a white board that make absolutely No. Sense. At. All. At which point even Goldberg looks like the guy who just wandered into a ward for the criminally insane by accident and is trying to figure out how to talk his way out.
So they get back on track by sharing that Karl Rove Talking Point ("they're talking about Limbaugh to keep people distracted") and gnaw on that for about four minutes.
At some point you'd think someone at Fox will figure out that they're hosting an hour of dementia and pull the plug, but who can argue with those ratings? All the world loves a train wreck in the making, after all.
Oh well. I can hardly wait for the Colbert parody.
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he made while detoxing. A helluva reason to keep drinking, etc.
I really tried to watch it. Both men are insane.
wow....just....wow!
Going back that far, to the turn of the century, weren't democrats and republicans roles reversed? Where Democrats protected big business and republicans were progressives who seemed to represent the people?
Oh and by the way didn't Reagan call FDR the last great democrat?
to make jonah "liberal cannibals" goldberg to look somewhat non-crazy.
I was thinking that with the last Beck/Goldberg video, and this one just takes it further. When Jonah Goldberg looks at you like you're insane, you know you've really gone over the edge.
Like Ron Woods said: When Keith Richards tells you that you have a drug problem, it may be time to listen.
trying to some warped idea of a Jon Stewart impression ...
The smell of desperation is stronger than last waltz at a Grade 9 sock hop.
http://analogik.com/acid_trip/acid_trip.html
It looks like this guy's drawings he made while on acid.
lol, wow
gibberish. Someone take this clown to a detox center for the intellectually challenged. He's OD'ing on repug juice.
I stopped him at 1:20, you know that dewsh bag reads this website. He is not helping the cause, the liberals are the farthest from the fascists and the big banks. Sick retarded bastard, Glenn the Beck. I am gonna ask nicely, C&L stop wasting your bandwidth on him. I swear he is being fueled by your website stop giving it to him.
Can you switch over to Alex Jones, maybe?
Shouldn't C & L offer a prize for anyone who can make it through the clip without pausing and without laughing?
the douche bad, as your charitably refer to him, does not read this website.
no, beck doesn't function like that. that would imply a higher functioning nervous system.
beck, when needing to access information, utilizes his chem-sensing forked tongue. think the miniseries 'V', then make the aliens dumb. no, dumber.... dumber still...
'read'... phhpt, as if
;)
Don't be so sure, he even admitted to reading the comment sections of liberal blogs on his show. I do watch tee vee from time to time, something seems to guide me to the proper channel at the proper time, I saw him almost slip up and say C&L but caught himself. I bet you would be surprised if you knew the people that come here. You think maybe Stewart, Colbert, Letterman, ... to name a few. Big names come here don't doubt it, this is the hidden gateway to the "stars". (assuming but most likely spot on(_)
i guess my "joke" didn't translate...
my writers are supplying me with shit
Wish somebody would give me a job, personal mechanic any1? Jag, Mercedes, Bmw, Volvo, Audi, experienced.
If Beck spends time on the web, it's probably on other conservative self-fellating sites. In fact, he's probably one of the single most significant contributors to those statistics about online porn in conservative states ...
"It's the policy of the big banks, and yes, I will agree with you, big business, that no longer look at people as anything other than consumers, with business that looks at countries only as markets. That's the problem sir, and that started with the progressives. Look it up. Do your history."
That's almost word for word what Marx said in his short history of the creation of the bourgeoisie in the Communist Manifesto.
Of course beck is a Mormon, and they briefly experimented with communist like lifestyle in their own early history.
I was Mormon once, and taught how the experiment failed, because the outside world of itinerant salesmen broke it down.
Found the quote from Karl Marx
I -- BOURGEOIS AND PROLETARIANS
The bourgeoisie, historically, has played a most revolutionary part.
The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his "natural superiors", and has left no other nexus between people than naked self-interest, than callous "cash payment". It has drowned out the most heavenly ecstacies of religious fervor, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom -- Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.
The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers.
The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation into a mere money relation.
(Marx, Communist Manifesto, The)
And here's beckerwood trying to take credit for the same concept, and claim it's conservative.
Well, it finally happened! Beck has become a blathering idiot and has soiled himself on national television.
This guy's idiocy is only superseded by his neo-nazi-ism.
At last Obama winning the elections as driven Glenn Beck over the edge (and for him that was a short trip anyway).
Future of Glenn Beck- insane asylum.... he can sit in a rocking chair, rocking back and forth ...back and forth....back and forth........
Cuckoo! Cuckoo!
that sounds like last night's epsiode
lol
Lou Dobbs talks again about the New World Order:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tasAu_gkmDQ
So the Progressive Movement is using Rushbo as a distraction, yet "pointing out" the Octomom will keep having kids and we'll just have to keep paying for them isn't a distraction?
At least Rush wants the free publicity, I wish their side would leave the poor woman alone!
... the conservative's worst nightmare: a right-to-life welfare mom.
You do realize she pulled off that stunt in order to get a reality TV show, right? The LAST thing that woman would do is turn down free publicity.
If he had a military uniform, some medals, and a jeep to ride around in, Beck could be the president of Sudan.
do the men in white coats and padded trucks plan on showing up.
Good Humor men?
good humored, at least, but carrying a big net just in case.
ps. nice to see ya back, ys.
I've been in a Bad Humor lately.
Big nets like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cLWVf5EGMY
Shocking stocking!
My God....I only watched 2 minutes of this before I had to shut it down.......Jesus? Octa-Mom? Does anyone watch this? This guys a cartoon.
"tetched by the hand of god"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU3JrXt_cPk
Daffy? Nah, that's BillO. Porky maybe? He always seemed kinda paranoid, but I don't remember him being batshit.
Is it actually possible to parody this? How would we be able to tell the difference? Well, I guess Colbert is at least less frightening.
He's into Poe's Law territory. Beck is so much like a parody of conservative whackos that it's really not possible to parody him further.
It's like Colbert told him the other night in an extreme close up:
Crank up the crazy, and rip off the nob!
Did JG say "the hypocrisy was bowel stewing"?
Sadly, it was the most coherent comment in the whole segment.
I love how the RW media constantly keeps the Limbaugh fracas alive and then complains there are more important things to talk about.
I love these guys! It just goes to show that there are few pleasures greater in life than lapping up true comedy gold like this, even if we are in what appears to be a rather over-large handbasket.
Nutcake fascist hypocrites ranting about the hypocrisy of the people they want to frame as fascists.
Then Beck begins to make a halfway reasonable point about Rush Limbaugh hogging the news while the media ignores the real story of the collapsing economy (which he then f*cks up by blaming 'liberal fascists') - and then, incredibly, segues to the REALLY important story: Gay Marriage in California.
It's just . . . words fail me. It's f*cked.
I can hardly wait for the Colbert parody.
Many's the time that thought has kept me going.
Why should there be a need for a parody? Satire only apes the idiotic ignorance, it doesn't beat it back into the darkness from whence it came.
Why not have some common sense on the airwaves to begin with?
Parody might simply go ape on it, but satire can entirely undercut it.
The fact that republican standing in polls are dropping faster than Pentacostalists at a Holy Roller revival means its working.
satire is telling the truth. Because the dearth of good sense doesn't mean bad sense and batshittery should be ignored. Because Jesus Christ, this shit must be mocked. And nobody does that like Stephen.
I couldn't make it. I stopped when he pointed to the kindergarten picture of Jesus.
My.
Oh yes...I couldn't watch it either. The picture was a nice add but what is it. I got bored with it all and the bashing.
Lynda
When you look up Glenn Beck in the dictionary, here's what you'll find:
Glenn Beck - DORK.
And Beck's drawing of "Octomom" looks more like Rush Limbaugh swallowing a small child...
Just take a step back and look at what's deemed acceptable political speech in our corporate media. Beck and Goldberg really are as far right as you can go without tattooing swastikas on your body. They are on the far, far right fringe, in comparison to the rest of the country.
They're about as far to the right as Communists are to the left. I can't imagine a Communist or an Anarchist being handed television and radio shows to promote their political ideology for hours every day, but these men are deemed just fine by the CEO class.
you know where you run out? unbridled consumerism and no structured investment in culture and society as a whole.
when is this dumb ass going to be canceled?
...I still feel perfectly able to comment on it, since Glenn Beck is without question the most absurd of the "big name" Right Wingers. The only thing I've ever seen of Beck are these short clips on C&L and he's always struck me as pure clown -- no intelligence, no talent, nothing attractive at all -- just pure Bozo. I find his appeal utterly mystifying, since I can't imagine why anyone would voluntarily watch an adolescent with ADHD making a fool of himself.
OK. Now, I've watched it. Yawn. No surprises at all. Beck, as always thinks he's incredibly funny, insightful, etc. His guest, not surprisingly, fails to understand Beck's greatness, although Glenn continues to behave as though he is offering profound commentary, when all he is doing is filling the slot he's filled since he was the obnoxious fifth grade class clown -- i.e., the obnoxious fifth grade class clown. That's all Beck can do; it's beyond boring.
More than any other prominent Right Wing personality, Beck's appeal utterly escapes me.
Take the crap that they spew and switch it around to just the opposite and you have the facts. They are accusing the Democrats of doing everything they do every day.
The stupid Reslug bastard, Beck, having had a severe brain injury, was hired on the spot by Faux Noise not unlike O'Lielly and the Manatee.
and some or discussing gay marriage.
Also, my BS-meter won't allow the demonizing of demonizers.
The force is strong in this one.
Beck ain't no dummy. He draws pictures to keep his fans focused.
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Beck balls or what? What an insipid twat laughing at Beck's lame repartee.
Guess what guys, shady bankers and insurance companies ran out of other people's money first.
And some Americans are watching a conservative little boy on FOX with no credentials what so ever, hey, I Google too. How Fucking Pathetic. Sorry, I can't put it any other way.
....this guy is bat shit crazy. The whole drawing thing was fucking nuts. It made no sense whatsoever. He better pray that f-word news likes him enough to keep him because the guy is heading towards a padded cell if he stops working.
I can't watch the clip, so I won't comment on what was said, but what the hell is up with the scary little kid drawings? As if Beck couldn't get more bizarre and frightening! :|
... But up to there, I believe that Beck thought it was unacceptable, not to mention horridly wrong, to take tax money from the people who have formerly been getting the benefits of governmental largess, and give it to people who formerly were being taxed.
Instead of taking money from those orphans, whom not even the government is looking after -- the poor-- Obama would take money from the super rich.
Taking money for the super rich would weaken the ranks of the people whom everyone wishes to be like, and without there being these super rich people who demonstrably possessed wealth beyond dreams of avarice, what would remain to motivate indolent but avaricious tax break receivers?
Beck is afraid that when this country's tax agency runs out of the super rich, then nobody will want to be rich any longer, and the country will be forced to go back to taxing the poor. So, why change policy now?
But then again, I did bang my head awfully hard against my desk.
"When you say 'radical right' today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party away from the Republican Party, and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye."
[Barry Goldwater]
If you want to have any credibility at all - why would go on this program?
I really do understand the ratings. People like their porn and evidently like watching this guy (which is close to porn) go insane right before our eyes. He has graciously provided Colbert enough fodder for an entire year without really trying - that's talent! So I say grab a bowl of popcorn and enjoy the show.
How about a pool - Name the date when Glenn Beck strips naked on live TV.
I think that people are getting accustomed to that phrase, and I don't know when all that crap about "liberal media" started, but I bet that it started like that, and now a large majority of America believes so, even though that's not true. I am afraid that the progressive movement will be stuck with that label. I think that instead of focusing on Beck's crazy scenarios, we should stop that phrase from becoming a common lie.
It hurts! Oooooh, it hurts! Only 1:45 seconds into it and I felt my mental gears jamming so hard, it's a wonder hot, jagged pieces didn't fly out my ears!
Seriously! Seriously, WTF is with that guy? It's almost like the old Bill Cosby routine where he went to NYC and and described an inchoate conversation between two winos!
I'm glad I don't watch much TeeVee anymore. If this is indicative of what's prevalent, then it'd kill me.
The twit isn't even listening to the guest, and he looks off camera as if to joke with some crew member. Cartoon voices, "She'll keep having babies.." and condescending child-like drawings?
You would expect FOX viewers to be insulted by this crap, but they probably walk away feeling like they have learned something.
Is it just me, or does the lighting on Beck look like it was shot in a basement?
It looks like a single bulb on a tabletop with him in front of a bluescreen, as if their budget were somewhere in the neighborhood of community access TV.
Who said that Republicans are evil?
Insane? Yes.
Evil? No. The good/evil thing is an exclusive copyright of the right.
"Octomum" is, of course, the latest incarnation of the welfare queen stereotype. Certainly there are instances of abuse and fraud in social assistance programs, but it is revealing how obsessed those on the right are about it. What is the ultimate cost to the taxpayer of the "octomums"? In six figures? Seven, maybe the low eights? Meanwhile, how many tens of billions of dollars are admittedly "unaccounted for" in Iraq reconstruction funds? Again - tens of billions of dollars. Don't think the Beck show has been highlighting that. Also, did not realize that Woodrow Wilson - responsible for the Palmer raids -was a progressive.
Octomom isn't really relevant to the whole "Welfare queen" argument because she didn't have those kids to go on welfare. She did it for fame, because she believed she could sell her family as the subject of a reality TV show. She never intended to take state money - she thought she'd be striking it rich on TV money.
Of course, she actually is on state money, no matter how much she denies it. But the plan was to be rich, not broke.
Not if you're too young for Sesame Street.
At least, that is what is shown by his show-both radio and this new mess on TV. He often reverts to infantile silliness,the extreme narcissism, the crying and the laughing inappropriately. All of this, taken together, may make even Fox cancel his show. With other righties-like Hannity, Rush, Medved, they are just for the ideology of the wealthy against the working class, war over working for peace, and on and on. Beck on the other hand is mentally unbalanced-along with choosing some rightist beliefs. Anyone who uses the words "good" and "book" along with Jonah Goldberg's ridiculous screed is nuts.
"...now the forgotten man is not the little orphan... it's YOU, right?"
Yeah, see, that means that the, um, Octomom isn't smiling anymore because Jesus took the free stuff from the Business Man, so...
no wait... (help me out on this); I mean Orphan Boy has a crack pipe and the top hat is gone so, um, er...
OK... I don't get it either. Maybe Glenn Beck is just plain Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn6cDaHLaMo&fe...
Shorter Beck:
I hate Black People. I hate women. I hate poor people.
They are trying to take my money. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Fitting pair. The insane vacuum cleaner salesman hooking up with the lil perfesser of sophistry.
Someone needs to turn that comment into a serious mash-up.
I would love to know what drugs these guys are on.
I like how Jonah had a little Dwight Shrute moment where he tried to imitate Beck so he could look cool too.
Ha Ha! I died laughing at that. It was like watching little boys playing G.I. Joe. Jonah actually held up his hand in some kind of fist punching ritual!
Hi-larious!
And then I cried.
Part of what Glen Beck is saying, whether he gets it or not, is that people really are FED UP and no longer trust any of these assholes in DC.
When he asks Jonah about whether he is hearing this on the streets and at parties, owned boy Jonah uncomfortably switches the topic back to the poor Rush Limbaugh meme.
Beck is a loose cannon and definitely coming unhinged.
If these guys are supposed to be on the same side...let's start getting out the popcorn.
Liberals hate America and demonize Americans.
And if we listen to this "false Jesus" we'll end up stealing money from normal happy folks and give it to crack smoking punks and hideous half-octopus creatures who bust keep having babies.
I just wish we could stop having liberals demonize poor little Rush Limbaugh.
By the way, notice how the pantload couldn't even bring himself to say that people were rejecting the Republican party when Beck fed him the false equivalence bullshit?
Wow. I have said a couple of times that I expect Glenn to use crayons to explain some of his many delusions so...wow again. This is so close.
Somebody had to say it.
all of this silly dems vrs reps crap is just a convenient DISTRACTION , to occupy the masses . Both parties support globalism and Clinton's telecommunication /Act ensured greater monopolies and Obama wants to look ahead , instead of persecuting the bush regime and Obama/Hillary will continue the bloody anti-arab and pro zionist policy .
Now power is being consolidated even more rapidly by a criminal banking system , aided by corrupt politicians from both sides .
Rachel Maddow has to ask "why we are in Afghanistan " and NEVER mentions OIL .
Glenn Beck is a nobody , but a corporate lapdog whore , and the rest avoid the real reasons for what is happening .
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roflz he sez oktomom and he doodelz her liek oktopus. dey orfins tayk our munneyz! rush duh man don diss rush
he is saying that liberals take money from the rich to give to the "forgotten man", those on the bottom; but in doing so, the rich become the forgotten man...so, er...ok, let me rethink this again.
he is saying that obama is jesus, and jesus wants to take from the rich to give to the crack baby with the octomom. and that the octomom and crack baby are the forgotten man. no, that doesn't make sense either. maybe it would make sense if he just shut up. fdr's "forgotten man" was not a crack baby or octomom. what the f is he talking about?
When Rush says he is taking someone on with half his brain tied behind his back.
Is Glen Beck the half of Rush's brain that is tied behind Rush's back ??
The Beckster is an idiot to be sure. But his insane rant is actually not so different than the usual Republican, Karl Rovian, Fox talking points. The use of simplified talking points mixed with mock outrage over and over again to rile up the angry masses. The same strategy they used to justify going Iraq by using fear and labeling anyone against it as un-American. Now they are doing it with the economy and Obama. They never questioned George Bush for 8 years, and the one truly responsible for this mess...but they sure are attacking Obama whose only been in office a couple of months.
Anyway....to "decode" the insane ramblings and bizarre erase board drawing of Glenn Beck is really simple. "Jesus" is right wing code mocking the media's love for Obama. "Octo Mom" is code for the right wings anger towards ANY social program whatsoever. Fox and the right wing like to "morph" the insanity of Octo Mom with any and all social programs to help rile up middle America against Liberal causes. It's ridiculous I know, but it works.
The Republicans are masters at avoiding intelligent discussion and channeling anger and fear into simple buzz words that create knee jerk reactions from the masses. Anyone remember the use of "Flip Flopper" to label and marginalize John Kerry? It didn't matter that Kerry was a war hero who volunteered to fight in Vietnam, was wounded a hero and then came back and against the tide helped turn sentiment against the war. They simply said "FLip FLOP" and people ate it up. Americans want their news like they want their food....FAST and full of empty calories.
And it works. By God it works. All Bush had to keep saying was "9/11!!" in every speech to keep the fear machine going and people from actually QUESTIONING their government.
It's funny now that the Republicans are using the same tactics in the guise of "questioning" Obama when they were so unwilling to question Bush.
Remember how they attacked and labeled ANYONE who questioned Bush as un American or a terrorist? 8 years of Bush led us to this moment. And yet 2 months into Obama's presidency, they are publicly hoping he fails. So questioning Bush equaled unpatriotic. But hoping Obama fails isn't?
Beck. Hannity. O'Reilly. Rush. They are all the same. Obama was untouchable. But now, they've found their plan of attack. Blame the economy on Obama. Forget what Bush did...it's all Obama. The Republicans are so fearful of what Clinton was able to do by turning huge deficits into huge surpluses....that they've decided to pull out all the stops. They want Obama to fail. They need him to fail. Even if it means the total collapse of America...it's their only hope of regaining power again. After the election, they became a party divided, while the Democrats became one again. So what do they do? The Republicans go back to the same playbook that enabled them to use fear to invade Iraq.
Right now they are using it with the economy. God forbid another terrorist attack happens, and they'll use that against Obama as well. They are laying the ground work now. By using these buzz words. Stirring up peoples anger and directing it at Obama.
If Obama succeeds, it will be the end of the Republican party and they know it. They are fighting for their survival. The insanity will continue.
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