f Holy Joe and Chuck Hagel were on "Face The Nation" today and Joe was in his usual warmongering, propaganda mode. Hagel obviously understan
December 2, 2006

fftn-lieberman-hagel.jpg Holy Joe and Chuck Hagel were on "Face The Nation" today and Joe was in his usual warmongering, propaganda mode. Hagel obviously understands the term "political solutions" much better than the last honest man. Oh, by the way, while Joe is afraid to look weak which I disagree with, our troops and scores of Iraqi's are being slaughtered daily. Not that it matters to Lieberman.

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LIEBERMAN: I believe that America is a mighty enough nation that we should never fear to talk to anyone. But anyone who believes that Iran and Syria really want to help us to succeed in Iraq, I just is missing the reality. Asking Iran and Syria to help us succeed in Iraq is like your local fire department asking a couple of arsonists to help put out the fire. These people are flaming the fire. They are the extremists. They are supporting terrorists in Iraq, in Lebanon and of course in the Palestinian areas.

SCHIEFFER: Senator Hagel is shaking his head.

HAGEL: No, that’s not the point. Of course the Iranians and Syrians are not going to come to our assistance. Of course not. But they are going to respond in their own self-interest. All nations respond in their own self-interests. Tallyrand once said that nations don’t have friends. They have interests. He was right. Ahh, it’s not in the interest of Syria or Jordan or Iran to have a failed state that would be a complete mess for the middle east.

Why did the Iranians help us in Afghanistan? Why did they cooperate with us in Afghanistan on intelligence matters and other issues? Because they didn’t want a failed state next to them which comes with all the problems. They didn’t want heroin moving into their borders. What we’re not getting here, is we’re not getting a full and comprehensive wide-lens appreciation of interests. And the other fact is that there will be no peace in the middle east which we haven't talked about

LIEBERMAN: Withdrawl is a statement of weakness that will send to the Iranians the signal that we are negotiating out of fear. That's the last thing we want to happen.

HAGEL: Of course we have to withdrawal at some point. The President has said that...

Think Progress has this posted as well and I used some of their transcripts. Face The Nation has more videos available as well.

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