Fox News host Maria Bartiromo had to raise her voice during an interview with Rudy Giuliani to get the Donald Trump's attorney to answer questions about his personal-attorney-yet-allegedly-"officially sanctioned"-State -Department role in trying to get Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and his son.
Giuliani appeared on Fox News just minutes after telling ABC News that he both would and would not cooperate with House Democrats on the impeachment of President Donald Trump.
"We've got to get to what you're doing," Bartiromo said after four minutes of Giuliani attacking Biden. "You are President Trump's personal attorney. Why are you having all these meetings with Ukrainian officials?"
"That's what you do as a defense attorney," Giuliani replied. "Did you ever watch Perry Mason? Perry Mason goes and investigates who really did the murder... We know who really did the murder but the police won't listen to us."
To be clear, Perry Mason is a fictional character, and defense attorneys are never responsible for investigating crimes. But Giuliani knows that only people who think a reality show actor and bankrupt real estate developer portraying a successful billionaire businessman has the skills to be president watch Fox News, and will never question his response, as ridiculous as it is.
As the interview continued, Bartiromo had to raise her voice to get Giuliani's attention.
"I didn’t work with anybody to try to get dirt on Joe Biden," he insisted at one point. "The dirt on Joe Biden was handed to me by the Ukrainians, amazed that the FBI hadn’t asked for this a year earlier, completely shocked and worried that our system of justice was flawed."
"But, Rudy, the bottom line is you’re not getting that on the Democrat side, and they are in charge," Bartiromo observed.
"I don’t care about the Democrats!" Giuliani exclaimed.
"Where are the indictments?" Bartiromo pressed. "Where are the prosecutions for the people who actually did wrongdoing in the 2016 elections?"
"That is a very good question, and that’s the question we should keep asking," Giuliani said. "And the reality is before they start criticizing me, the question should be what have they done about it? Where’s the Republican Senate investigating extremely serious charges about the former vice president?"
"Yeah," the Fox News host agreed.
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