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Colmes Vs Phyllis Schlafly: Is Gay Marriage Bad For America?

Alan Colmes handily dominates the queen of the anti-feminist movement on the gay marriage issue.

The woman who spearheaded the movement that opposed Feminism in the 1960's and 1970's, Phyllis Schlafly, was Alan Colmes sparring partner in this week's Versus on Fox News.com. You might think that the topic of marriage equality might make Phyllis feel torn, as her own son is gay, but she is vehemently opposed to the SCOTUS decision. Schlafly is the founder of the organization known as the Eagle Forum, a non-profit that is committed to ensuring the survival of the nuclear family.

Schlafly is everything the Conservative movement values.

She has been an outspoken opponent of many issues including: sex education (unless its "abstinence only"), reproductive rights, AIDS education, sexual harassment legislation, federal support for daycare and family leave, United States involvement with the United Nations, the international Chemical Weapons Treaty, affirmative action, bilingual education, multiculturalism and diversity education, gay and lesbian rights, teaching the theory of evolution in schools, environmental protection efforts, the dangers of pornography, and immigration.

On the plus side, Schlafly has been dedicated to the cause of improving literacy writing First Reader (1994) which was designed for the beginning child.

In 1992, her son John was outed as a gay man, and never spoke ill of his mother, defending family-values Republicans. John told Newsweek that year,

"The truth is: family-values people, of which my mother is a part, are not out to bash gay people," said Schlafly, who was "outed" earlier this month by QW, a New York-based gay weekly. He even had praise for former presidential candidate Pat Buchanan, who encouraged GOP delegates to wage a "cultural war" on homosexuals.

Alan asked her if she thinks that since Eagle Forum president, Ed Martin, disagrees so vehemently with Justice Anthony Kennedy's decision, should judges be up for impeachment?

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Alan explains that the reason lifetime appointments are important for the judicial branch is to keep the judges from being partial to the electorate. Schlafly is not for impeachment, but she is also clear that she doesn't seem to like the whole lifetime appointment. The almost 91 year-old, Skype-using Schlafly is against lifetime appointments because people used to only live until 60 years or so, and
'now they're living on and on and on.'


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It is noteworthy that she has no problem with Justice Scalia's advanced age, just the judges who disagree with her philosphies. She is not advocating the recalling of Justice Kennedy, but the 'American people need to wake up.' Sounds like the typical right wing fearmongering, just stated in a softer voice.

Phyllis is very troubled that the new millennium thinking can limit reproduction by giving gay people the right to marry, giving more dignity to couples who are NOT raising children. Couples who are raising kids should be recognized as much as Kennedy recognizes the gays. Colmes points out that the amount of reproduction is not affected, because the people who are the beneficiaries of marriage equality would not have reproduced anyway. But she thinks our society as a whole isn't rewarding the noble child-rearing 'straight' family, yet she doesn't actually say they should get more dignity than a gay couple. She basically neutered her own argument, with a little coaxing from Alan.

This was not much of a contest. Schlafly's outdated thinking is losing steam, and I think she knows there's not a whole lot she can do about it. Our society is not what it was when she was growing up, and that's pretty damned great.

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